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[joomla] Gawd! I hate Drupal!!!

Paul Bouzakis nyphp at zooluserver.com
Fri Jun 25 10:10:52 EDT 2010


I am new to Joomla as I am still learning the ins and out of the 
cms/framework, but one thing I do know is that we should not have to 
reinvent the wheel.
We should be able to add vendor libraries into Joomla like Zend 
Framework or Symfony Components.
In this example you could use the Zend_Mail class which has a similar 
interface to the one you describe.

Maybe this is possible in Joomla, I just haven't seen it.  Should be 
easy enough with Zend's Autoloader.

On 6/25/2010 9:33 AM, Gary Mort wrote:
> As my dayjob involves email deliver-ability,  I have long loathed the 
> Joomla Email functionality.
>
> It is extremely basic, locked into specific and downlevel email 
> libraries[PHPMailer for the longest time was languishing in obscurity 
> and far outpaced by Swiftmail in functionality.  Now the reverse is 
> happening and new versions of PHPMailer are getting the functionality. 
>  Yet still Joomla is stuck with an old old version of PHPMailer].
>
> Plus it is extremely limiting, in my mind, for a component to send 
> email directly to users.
>
> To me, a much better model would be as follows:
>
> $userMessage = new JMessage;
>
> $userMessage->setRecipient($joomlaUser);
> $userMessage->setSender($joomlaUser);
>
> // HTML message suitable for web or email
> $userMessage->setRichHTML('some html formatted email');
>
> // HTML message suitable for Cell or PDA
> $userMessage->setBasicHTML('some html formatted message');
>
> //Long Text Message
> $userMessage->setLongText('some long text message');
>
> //Medium text message
> $userMessage->setMediumText('some short summary message, max of 1024 
> chars');
>
> //Short text message
> $userMessage->setShortText('some short text message, max 230 chars');
>
> //Add some files
> $userMessage->attachFile($fileHandle);
>
> // Optionally, set a preferred medium
>
> $force=false;
> $preferred='email';
>
> // What kind of message is this?  Types could be confirmation, normal, 
> or batch
> $type='normal'
>
> // Send the message
> $userMessage->sendMessage($type, $preferred, $force);
>
>
> So that basically, when you get to the send message part, the message 
> is saved to a messaging queue table and based on the recipients 
> preference, they can receive the message in a number of different ways.
>
> If they prefer to receive notices by IM or SMS text message, then you 
> send them the short text message with a link to the rich html version 
> online.
>
> If they prefer email, then you send a MIME email with the rich HTML 
> and the basic Text.
>
> If the user has a flag set for text only, and you have a text version 
> send just the text.
>
> If the user has a flag set for low impact html, or wants an MMS, send 
> the basic html.
>
> If they prefer private internal message, you can send it to the 
> internal system, which may trigger a new round of notifications being 
> sent.
>
>
> [Note: the type of message is important, primarily to differentiate 
> between batch notices like "a forum thread you posted to has been 
> updated" and "new content has been added to this section"...and 
> messages like "confirmation of your order"....  For batch notices, one 
> could allow a user to have additional settings such as "only send me 
> batch notices once an hour or once a day".... so instead of getting 50 
> forum update notices, they will get one notice at the end of the hour 
> the first one is put in the queue with all the medium text fields 
> appended together].
>
> So, why do I hate drupal?  Because someone has already done it!
> http://drupal.org/project/messaging
>
> *sigh*     Now, I was willing to code all that for my own usage.... 
>  but figured no one else would ever use it....  But if it already 
> exists, there isn't much reason for me to code it for Joomla.... :-(
>
>
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