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[Donna Marie Vincent]

That's a good idea, why don't you do that this summer? :-)  It's the next hot extension.



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From: Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com>
To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [joomla] Opinions sought re social logins


Actually, Facebook will give you the email address if the user authorizes it.  http://developers.facebook.com/docs/authentication/permissions/  You have to request the "email" permission.

In Janrain you need to have the Pro package[1000/year] and you can
    then map multiple social networks to the users profile, and then map
    the janrain profile fields to your internal profile fields.   If
    Janrain goes out of business, then you will either need to reset the
    password[by sending it to an email address, or even as an internal
    social network message to one of the mapped social network
    accounts], or implement an authentication package to re-authenticate
    those accounts.

The nerd in me says I'd rather implement it myself.  But if I never
    get back to updating/maintenance in a year it will be out of date,
    wheras Janrain will keep updating.

On the other hand, with time on my hands this summer, and seeing
    pricing of 1000/year for a single domain to use Janrain, maybe I
    should implement it myself with a Rest interface and then try to
    resell it. :-)

-Gary

On 5/26/2011 1:17 PM, Donna Marie Vincent wrote: 
Joomla user accounts are created but some social networks won't give you the users' email address.  This would be the case if you use the Facebook Connect with or without Janrain.
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>If you weren't using Janrain, you can use the various social network's API to create the same plugin.
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>From: forest mars <compustretch at gmail.com>
>To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 12:37 PM
>Subject: Re: [joomla] Opinions sought re social logins
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>I'd be interested in knowing how does Janrain actually work especially WRT the long-term viability of this approach. 
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>IE, Let's say I have a site with 5000 users who have used
              Janrain to sign up (using a mix of fb, twitter, gmail
              etc.) and Janrain goes out of business, gets acquired,
              whatever. 
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>What happens to the user accounts, do they have to sign up
              again, or does it just create local accounts with
              passwords and an email address? 
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>It seems there would be a trade off between usability and
              lock-in, and I'm just not clear on how Janrain works. 
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>cheers, 
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>fm
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>On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:
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>It is the same as having a Joomla Core account. Except rather than checking core, it checks elsewhere.
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>>On 5/25/2011 7:55 PM, Donna Marie Vincent wrote: 
>>How is that different from a user creating multiple Joomla accounts with different email addresses?
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>>>Once you sign in with one social network it remembers which one you used and presents it to you as the first option.
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>>>From: Paul Hoffman <floorguy05 at yahoo.com>
>>>To: Joomla Users Group List <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 7:52 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [joomla] Opinions sought re social logins
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>>>That would be  allowing  many
                                          different login for 1 person
                                          unless you only allow 1 ip or
                                           usage .Personally i use a few
                                          different emails so i would be
                                          a candadate for a few
                                          accounts( not purposly) 
>>>Also  many have multiple social accounts !
>>>--- On Wed, 5/25/11, Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>>From: Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>
>>>>Subject: [joomla] Opinions
                                              sought re social logins
>>>>To: "Joomla Users Group
                                              List" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>>>>Date: Wednesday, May 25,
                                              2011, 7:39 PM
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>>>>I have a Joomla site (not live yet) set up with Janrain login.  http://www.janrain.com/products/engage/social-login
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>>>>Users can login to the Joomla site with their Facebook, Twitter, AOL, Yahoo, Gmail or LinkedIn account.
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>>>>I think this would make it much easier for users to join the site and participate in the site.  But I'm wondering what the downsides might be.
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