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[nycphp-talk] NYC economy for web developers

Phil Powell soazine at erols.com
Fri May 10 15:29:02 EDT 2002


JS as in Java servlets or Javascript? I lean toward the former, I can't
imagine Javascript having that kind of capability!

Augh! Can't figure this out! There goes my usefulness down the toilet.  Lump
me in with the biker transvestite. :(

Phil

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam" <adam at ecamp.net>
To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at nyphp.org>
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:22 PM
Subject: RE: [nycphp-talk] NYC economy for web developers


> You don't.. Well at least.  Can do a JS push/receive from the server
> every X times or something... Similar to the way PHPLive does it.
>
> If you load up the caht module on Kiwibox.com (teen site) my friend just
> finished making that.. uses java. Is nice.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Powell [mailto:soazine at erols.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:12 PM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] NYC economy for web developers
>
> Well that makes me feel a bit better insofar as I can't figure out how
> to
> get Java applets to keep talking to servlets and servlets to keep
> talking to
> applets.
>
> I know, it ain't PHP but how DO you write a chatroom in PHP?
>
> Phil
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam" <adam at ecamp.net>
> To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at nyphp.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:04 PM
> Subject: RE: [nycphp-talk] NYC economy for web developers
>
>
> > Haha. No I listen to Stern as well. I mean the ads are targeting
> bottom
> > of the barrel.
> > "Tired of hearing your best friend having this great job while you
> hate
> > your job and cant wait for the weekend..."
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jaz-Michael King [mailto:JMKing at ipro.org]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:40 PM
> > To: NYPHP Talk
> > Subject: RE: [nycphp-talk] NYC economy for web developers
> >
> > I lucked out, at my last interview I ended up fixing their formmail. I
> > was hired on the spot :o)
> >
> > I listen to Stern... am I really bottom of the barrel?
> >
> > J
> >
> > ******************************
> > Jaz-Michael King
> > Online Services Manager
> > IPRO
> > http://ipro.org
> > ******************************
> >
> >
> > >>> "Adam" <adam at ecamp.net> 05/10/02 12:48PM >>>
> > My friend interviews people in DC for his company.
> > He had a woman come in for a programming position, but more doing
> > advanced JS and a little CF.  He asked her to write a simple JS
> function
> > to count 1 to 10 and display the results on the browser.  She started
> to
> > cry and say that she thought it was very unfair that they ask this
> hard
> > of a question on an interview... As she was stressed out enough.
> >
> > Tho that doesn't beat the ex biker transvestite turned web developer
> who
> > barely knew what a <title> tag was trying to ask for a 60k salary at
> my
> > company. :)
> >
> > It doesn't help on Stern every morning you hear ads to become an IT
> > professional and make the big bucks... Advertising to bottom of the
> > barrel folks.  Oh well.
> >
> > I think in the consulting world, its all about word of mouth these
> days.
> > If I put an ad in the paper I will be flooded with so much garbage it
> is
> > near impossible to find the needle in the haystack.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Sklar [mailto:sklar at sklar.com]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:30 PM
> > To: NYPHP Talk
> > Subject: RE: [nycphp-talk] NYC economy for web developers
> >
> > > From: Hans Cathcart [mailto:hans at cathcart.org]
> > >
> > > People with deep technical skills in
> > > Databases and Application development will make a come back.
> > > Good designers will be OK.  But, people who just know how to
> > > code HTML and use Dreamweaver are a dime a dozen now.
> >
> > I think this is the crucial point. The explosion in need for "web
> > programmers" caused a lot of people to go into the field without a lot
> > of
> > the industrial base of skills that are useful (necessary?) when jobs
> > aren't
> > so plentiful, like now.
> >
> > The worst I saw this was at my old company in Boston, after an
> interview
> > with a potential programmer. He did the standard 1 or 2 programming
> > questions we asked and we talked about various things. At the end, he
> > asked
> > me if we always ask programming questions in interviews. (Yes). He
> said
> > he
> > thought that was very tough of us, since this was the first
> programming
> > interview he'd been to where he'd actually been asked to write code!
> >
> > -dave
> >
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