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[nycphp-talk] NYC economy for web developers

Adam adam at ecamp.net
Fri May 10 15:37:54 EDT 2002


Javascript... you have a function run every X time to pull data from
your server and document.write it out in a layer you clear or something.

But for an actual IRC type chat environment java is the way to go... But
theres lots of projects already out there for this sortah thing.. And
some commercial ones that are quite nice.  I used www.webmaster.com's
product for our chats.  Just smooth and nice.


-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Powell [mailto:soazine at erols.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:29 PM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] NYC economy for web developers

JS as in Java servlets or Javascript? I lean toward the former, I can't
imagine Javascript having that kind of capability!

Augh! Can't figure this out! There goes my usefulness down the toilet.
Lump
me in with the biker transvestite. :(

Phil

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam" <adam at ecamp.net>
To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at nyphp.org>
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:22 PM
Subject: RE: [nycphp-talk] NYC economy for web developers


> You don't.. Well at least.  Can do a JS push/receive from the server
> every X times or something... Similar to the way PHPLive does it.
>
> If you load up the caht module on Kiwibox.com (teen site) my friend
just
> finished making that.. uses java. Is nice.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Powell [mailto:soazine at erols.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:12 PM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] NYC economy for web developers
>
> Well that makes me feel a bit better insofar as I can't figure out how
> to
> get Java applets to keep talking to servlets and servlets to keep
> talking to
> applets.
>
> I know, it ain't PHP but how DO you write a chatroom in PHP?
>
> Phil
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam" <adam at ecamp.net>
> To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at nyphp.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:04 PM
> Subject: RE: [nycphp-talk] NYC economy for web developers
>
>
> > Haha. No I listen to Stern as well. I mean the ads are targeting
> bottom
> > of the barrel.
> > "Tired of hearing your best friend having this great job while you
> hate
> > your job and cant wait for the weekend..."
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jaz-Michael King [mailto:JMKing at ipro.org]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:40 PM
> > To: NYPHP Talk
> > Subject: RE: [nycphp-talk] NYC economy for web developers
> >
> > I lucked out, at my last interview I ended up fixing their formmail.
I
> > was hired on the spot :o)
> >
> > I listen to Stern... am I really bottom of the barrel?
> >
> > J
> >
> > ******************************
> > Jaz-Michael King
> > Online Services Manager
> > IPRO
> > http://ipro.org
> > ******************************
> >
> >
> > >>> "Adam" <adam at ecamp.net> 05/10/02 12:48PM >>>
> > My friend interviews people in DC for his company.
> > He had a woman come in for a programming position, but more doing
> > advanced JS and a little CF.  He asked her to write a simple JS
> function
> > to count 1 to 10 and display the results on the browser.  She
started
> to
> > cry and say that she thought it was very unfair that they ask this
> hard
> > of a question on an interview... As she was stressed out enough.
> >
> > Tho that doesn't beat the ex biker transvestite turned web developer
> who
> > barely knew what a <title> tag was trying to ask for a 60k salary at
> my
> > company. :)
> >
> > It doesn't help on Stern every morning you hear ads to become an IT
> > professional and make the big bucks... Advertising to bottom of the
> > barrel folks.  Oh well.
> >
> > I think in the consulting world, its all about word of mouth these
> days.
> > If I put an ad in the paper I will be flooded with so much garbage
it
> is
> > near impossible to find the needle in the haystack.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Sklar [mailto:sklar at sklar.com]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:30 PM
> > To: NYPHP Talk
> > Subject: RE: [nycphp-talk] NYC economy for web developers
> >
> > > From: Hans Cathcart [mailto:hans at cathcart.org]
> > >
> > > People with deep technical skills in
> > > Databases and Application development will make a come back.
> > > Good designers will be OK.  But, people who just know how to
> > > code HTML and use Dreamweaver are a dime a dozen now.
> >
> > I think this is the crucial point. The explosion in need for "web
> > programmers" caused a lot of people to go into the field without a
lot
> > of
> > the industrial base of skills that are useful (necessary?) when jobs
> > aren't
> > so plentiful, like now.
> >
> > The worst I saw this was at my old company in Boston, after an
> interview
> > with a potential programmer. He did the standard 1 or 2 programming
> > questions we asked and we talked about various things. At the end,
he
> > asked
> > me if we always ask programming questions in interviews. (Yes). He
> said
> > he
> > thought that was very tough of us, since this was the first
> programming
> > interview he'd been to where he'd actually been asked to write code!
> >
> > -dave
> >
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