NYCPHP Meetup

[Kyle Tuskey]

You can scale LAMP (minus MySQL which is barely a database) to some
degree, but it isn't really the best way to approach it.  PHP was not
built to be an enterprise language.  The lack of the N-Tier model makes
it great for most sites, but true enterprise level needs would be better
approached with J2EE or .Net.  Using .Net or J2EE (Java) will make the
final solution much easier to use, manage, scale, and deploy.  Though
the word "enterprise" is thrown around too much and often isn't used
accurately, applications that truly are enterprise do need to take into
account a lot of the advantages of the N-Tier model.  PHP has XML-RPC to
all remote calls in a distributed architecture if I remember correctly,
but it isn't very efficient.  For instance, Java's RMI (Remote Method
Invocation) implementation is much more robust for this purpose.  If you
must use PHP for an enterprise solution, use a strong RDBMS (MySQL is
definitely not in this category) and some form of load balancing or
clustering as opposed to an attempted distributed architecture w/ PHP.


Kyle


-----Original Message-----
From: Ophir Prusak [mailto:prutwo at onebox.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 5:25 PM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Scaling LAMP Architecture

I work at http://www.communityconnect.com
While we aren't LAMP, we are pretty close - LAOP (Oracle, not MySQL).
To the best of my knowledge we're the busiest PHP powered site in the
world
( 800 million page view a month in Jan 2002) so I can definitely say
that L,
A and P can be used to create a solution that scales.

Ophir

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hans Zaunere" <zaunere at yahoo.com>
To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at nyphp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Scaling LAMP Architecture


>
> --- Larry Chuon <LarryC at indexstock.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does anybody have any experiences designing LAMP for a large
> > environment?
>
> Yeah, more or less.
>
> > As far as I know, LAMP is a 2-tier architecture.
>
> 2? I swore I saw about a dozen tiers running around the office today.
>
> > There isn't an application server such as JBOSS, Weblogic, or Zope
> > that sits in between.
>
> It's a do it yourself type of deal, which IMHO is better.
>
> > Any suggestion on how to go about this problem is greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Not personal experience, but maybe these are helpful:
> http://www.zend.com/zend/tut/tutsweatpart1.php
> http://www.zend.com/zend/tut/tutsweatpart2.php
>
> >
> > By the way, this is in reference to osCommece and Nola integration.
> > The integration is about 95% done.  We are dressing it up now.
> > Hopefully, we can release the product to the public domain within a
> > month or two. If you want to sign up for a test drive of a fully
> > integrated ERP and eCom system, please send me an email.  Our next
> > goal is to integrate or build our own CRM/XRM module.  Once again,
if
> > you are interested in helping out, please email me.
>
> Sounds interesting.. maybe you and your team would like to give a
> presentation some time.
>
>
>
> =====
> Hans Zaunere
> New York PHP
> http://nyphp.org
> hans at nyphp.org
>
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