NYCPHP Meetup

[Oktay Altunergil]

I really did mean for this to be off-list .. lol.. sorry about that. :)

oktay

On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:10:05 -0500
Oktay Altunergil <nyphp at altunergil.com> wrote:

> See if this might work for you guys.
> 
> http://datapipe.com/jsp.asp
> 
> Oktay
> 
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:27:56 -0500
> Liquid M3 <liquidm3 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I had an extremely bad experience with CQHost.  Poor uptime, poor 
> > communication.  My site was down for days at a time.
> > 
> > I was drawn to CQHost by the JSP support (and, in fact, I'm writing a JSP 
> > version of LiquidClassifiedsXML right now - and have nowhere to host it, now 
> > that I'm letting my CQHost account expire).
> > 
> > Ever wonder why PHP support is widely available while JSP support is offered 
> > by relatively few hosts on hosting plans that cost less than $15/month? 
> > (even though JSP appears to be far more popular with employers)
> > 
> > CQHost blamed its uptime problems on Resin, which it said was causing 
> > resource utilization problems.  This seems plausible enough to me - I can 
> > see that with client-side apps that Java tends to be a memory and processor 
> > hog, and I believe that it behaves similarly on the server-side (see 
> > http://www.chamas.com/bench/index.html and look, especially, at the red bars 
> > indicating memory usage).
> > 
> > But I don't want to give the appearance of claiming that PHP is good while 
> > JSP is bad.
> > 
> > My belief is that PHP tends to be better suited for small websites/companies 
> > while JSP/servlets/EJBs tend to be better suited for large 
> > websites/companies, particularly ones for which data loss or downtime can 
> > have catastrophic implications.
> > 
> > I would use JSP/servlets/EJBs if I needed things like failover and message 
> > queueing - probably important if I am processing trades.  I wouldn't want to 
> > lose a few Soros Fund trades just because the server went down temporarily 
> > (rather, I'd like them to go into a message queue, to be processed later 
> > when the server comes back up).
> > 
> > I would use PHP if I needed to make a quick and cheap website that primarily 
> > serves information as opposed to processing financial transactions.
> > 
> > But this is just my opinion; no doubt, lots of people on this list will 
> > disagree with me.
> > 
> > And I'll note, before other people point this out, that at least one large 
> > company appears to be adopting PHP: 
> > http://public.yahoo.com/~radwin/talks/yahoo-phpcon2002.htm
> > 
> > But as far as I can tell, the major Wall Street firms are big 
> > JSP/servlet/EJB users rather than PHP users.
> > 
> > 
> > Ted
> > 
> > LiquidMarkets
> > Financial data and free classifieds
> > http://www.liquidmarkets.com
> > 
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