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[nycphp-talk] NYC Freelance rates

Bradley Baumann bradley at bestweb.net
Mon Jan 20 13:00:39 EST 2003


Heh. Well, I think that is straying away from the topic that we're dealing
with.
But I know what you mean.

-Bradley.


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From: "Jon Baer" <jonbaer at jonbaer.net>
To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at nyphp.org>
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] NYC Freelance rates


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> > and no optimization what so ever. When you ask why there is only one
> > function in the whole application and the answer is: "Well, I only found
> out
> > last week that there are functions in PHP", you can fully understand
where
> > the $20/hour comes from.
>
> This is a good point ... but recently the whole hiring process has made me
> sick, including a recent "would you work for back pay?" ... Im thinking of
> leaving the entire software area for a long time till things get ironed
out,
> you have people trying to hire you not even knowing what *they* want, you
> have software platforms that sometimes change from one release to another
> literally overnight ... on top your work can't even be "creative" and
"fun"
> anymore, you have to adhere to strict guidelines which are barely ever
> taught, you have 100 different books by 100 different programmers on the
> same subject using 100 different methods to do 1 single thing and then you
> have this term "freelance" in which people think the word "free" in there
> actually has a different term besides "free to do other things @ the same
> time" ...
>
> I was fortunate to land a 3 month LAMP project to keep things afloat but I
> can't see beyond it and will probably move to hardware/reselling/training
or
> selling.  Id also recommend the individual hold out for more money despite
> the economy but there could be other factors, question is how much you can
> live for to decide on whether the job (and probably headaches) are worth.
>
> - - Jon
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