[nycphp-talk] PHP/MySQL based solution for sending bulk email?
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>From: Edward Potter <ejp at well.com>
>Reply-To: talk at nyphp.org
>To: NYPHP Talk <talk at nyphp.org>
>Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] PHP/MySQL based solution for sending bulk email?
>Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 19:53:28 -0500
>One of the finest pieces of software written i think:
>Does it all for us...
>On Tuesday, March 18, 2003, at 01:48 PM, Ian Forsyth wrote:
> > Steve,
> > to send out 5000 emails using a solution you describe below on a shared
> > hosting server would take 1/2 hour, to an hour with noticable server
> > lag.. If you have developers on staff.. Go for it do it in house... get
> > a server from rackspace.com, or dialtone.com ($150 bucks a month or so)
> > or something similar.. developers getting at least $150 dollars a day..
> > it would not take long to get up and running, three months at a maximum
> > . but if you do not have developers already on staff I'd say give the
> > responsibilty to some one else, and if they are failing find another
> > company to do it for you..
> > In doing mass mailing (SPAM) there are a lot of concerns to keep in
> > mind, RBL database, MAPS.. network up time.. HACKERS who don't like you
> > sending out so much email.. the more 'popular' your ip, the more you
> > have to be concerned about security.. though the managed hosting
> > solutions mentioned above can help you with such duties..
> > So maybe you can do it semi in house.. Meaning you go with a managed
> > hosting service provider, pay the extra fees for security and backup,
> > and extra band width, and setup but develop the php/POSTGRES or MYSQL 4
> > solution your selves.. thing is.. its kinda difficult to test for
> > 200,000 emails, this is why going with some one how specializes in mass
> > mailing would be a good idea.. maybe you could host the front end..
> > then send a mass mailing company the list.. and say send these people
> > email.. but you could maintain the list of people, and sell their
> > addresses to as many people as you want.
> > I would not do it if you do not have developers weather contract or
> > full time. When something breaks, it is best to not learn how to
> > program at that time.
> > Anyways, those are my thoughts..
> > Ian
> > On Monday, March 17, 2003, at 04:52 PM, Steve Soler wrote:
> >> I have an opt-in email list of about 200,000 people. I'm wondering if
> >> anyone knows of a shareware or commercial PHP/MySQL based solution for
> >> sending out bulk email. It would have to have the following features:
> >> - Allow the creation of multiple mailing lists by duplicating existing
> >> mailing lists and also copying one mailing list to an existing.
> >> - Must be able to remove duplicates in each individual mailing list.
> >> - Force mailings to be associated with only one mailing list at a
> >> time.
> >> - Allow for optional demographics fields on the Opt-In form.
> >> - Handle Opt-Out / Opt-In requests for each individual email list.
> >> - Handle HTML email with optional plain text for non-html email
> >> clients.
> >> - Monitor statistics for every delivered email that is viewed and the
> >> link clicked through to.
> >> - Provide a way for clients to view the live statistics of their
> >> particular mailing online.
> >> This solution can run on either a Windows 2000 box or a Mac OS X box,
> >> which ever is more convenient. I know Mac OS X come with PHP and
> >> SendMail pre-installed being that it's really UNIX under the hood.
> >> I'll be using a broad band connection so I need this solution to use
> >> the sendmail program (or equivalent) to send the mailings right from
> >> the box it's installed on. This is to avoid having to rely on an ISP
> >> or Web-hosts mail server which will think I'm sending out spam and try
> >> and shut me down.
> >> I hope this is clear and I hope some one knows of a solution out there
> >> that will do the job. If there turns out to be none with these
> >> capabilities, I'm also interested in possibly hiring some one to build
> >> such a solution for me if the price is right. All feed back is
> >> appreciated.
> >> Thank you,
> >> Steve Soler
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