You can see the /. article here http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/03/1319245&mode=thread&tid=126&tid=156&tid=169 Or Chris's blog entry here http://shiflett.org/archive/46 Way to go Chris! This is mention #2 for you on /. IIRC, this and the reveiw of your book :) paul