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Jayesh Sheth jayeshsh-at-ceruleansky.com |nyphp 04/2004| wrote:

> >Very interesting stuff for a PHP talk list, for sure. I've got a
> >free-as-in-software beer for Jay any time he wants to claim it.
>
> Thanks for the offer, I might take you up on it.


Sounds like we don't disagree on too much to share a beer and an 
interest in PHP.

-=john


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> Hello All,

Hey Paul,

> I have had the pleasure of attending two NyPHP meetings (the=20
> most recent two in fact) and really enjoyed them, and hope to=20
> continue the learning by joining and participating in this=20
> list. It was suggested that I introduce myself, so here goes.
>=20
> I am living in NYC for the summer on a work visa, and will be=20
> returning to Canada on or before August 31, or Homeland=20
> Security will be more than happy to assist me to the nearest=20
> detention center.
>=20
> I started playing with PHP quite a while back in what I might=20
> is the standard way for programmers. I was using a program=20
> (phpBB) that someone else wrote and was curious as to how it=20
> worked. Experimented for a while, discovered I enjoyed coding=20
> in PHP, and the rest they say is history.
>=20
> I am currently working for MetaMachine (authors of eDonkey &=20
> Overnet) here in NYC, and am able to use PHP on a limited=20
> basis, making changes to phpBB and cleaning up some of the=20
> admin interfaces we use to manage our User & Advertiser=20
> accounts. I have used PHP in many personal (my website, small=20
> pet sites, etc,) and professional (here, built the Enwin=20
> Utilities corporate intranet, etc) projects, and am looking=20
> forward to PHP5.
>=20
> My particular interests in PHP would be scalability,=20
> templating and security.
>=20
>=20
> thanks for having me

Welcome to the list; good meeting you at the last meeting.  We've got a
lot to talk about, so join on in

H

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Subject: RE: [nycphp-talk] Good PHP Apps
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=20

> Unfortunately, I don't know of any good examples. I've heard=20

Ditto for me, and frankly, that's quite sad.  It unfortunately shows the
state of most public PHP development, and something NYPHP has been
struggling to change since the beginning.  While I'm sure (and know, in
fact) there is good code out there, it's generally kept private (and for
good reason; I know places where PHP is used that you'd *never*
believe).  Thus, the bad code becomes common, and because it's so easy
to write, the process snowballs.

> good things about coWiki's code. Anyone know of other=20
> well-written PHP applications?

It'd be a snap to start up a clew node on this and get people posting
applications they like.  We can then select a couple of editors to give
the code a quick once over and determine if it should stay on the list
or not.  Any takers?

H

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There's been a lot of good discussion on getting people up to speed on
PHP that come from other languages, such as VB.  As evident from the
threads today, there are many different viewpoints, each with it's own
merit and importance.

I think it'd be foolish to let these insights fade away.  As such, I'd
like to see what type of interest there is to bringing the notion of a
free migration workshop to fruition.

However, NYPHP's existing resources are pretty well strained, so we'd
need some new volunteers to get involved and take charge.  Off the top
of my head, I'd say these types of resources would be needed:

-- general project organizer, manager and planner

-- people with backgrounds other than PHP (like VB, ASP, IIS, etc) that
has already gone down the path to learning PHP

-- people wanting to learn PHP from other backgrounds

-- some space (computer lab type of setting) where this can all happen


Please, step forward and get involved... you're insight and help is
always valuable to the community.

Drop a note to operations not junkmail at nyphp.org or to myself if
interested.

---
Hans Zaunere
President
New York PHP
http://nyphp.org




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