NYCPHP Meetup

[David Mintz]

On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Mitch Pirtle wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 12:12:27 -0500, Andrew Yochum <andrew at digitalpulp.com> wrote:
> > Since you're just starting out I might suggest Mambo, but that depends
> > on what you're looking to do.  It does not offer flexible content types
> > and can often lead to messy and duplicate URLs for pages.  But it does
> > offer a really nice flexible system for building entire sites w/o coding
> > anything but a simple template.  The most recent release is leaps and
> > bounds greater than previous releases in terms of UI, features,
> > flexibility and stability, which were good to begin with.  Mitch might
> > have a bit to say about all of these things.
>
> I have a LOT to say, as anyone that has had to sit next to me already knows LOL
>
> Seriously, Mambo was geared for the non-technical, and sports a very
> simple web-based installation interface that is hard to beat.  We put
> a tremendous amount of time into that, and I would welcome any
> feedback, either positive or negative.
>
> Access to additional goodies at mosforge.net is another big draw.  The
> 3rd party development community for Mambo is huge and active, and you
> can download (and use a web installer) all kinds of stuff from a fancy
> flash analog clock to online stores...
>
> > > Another thing to keep in mind is cost.  If you're willing a little,
> > > you'll probably end up with a solid CMS.
> >
> > Though, you can spend a lot of money on a product and still spend a lot
> > of time/money customizing it to get what you want.  There are always
> > trade-offs.
>
> I have worked with all of the 'biggies' in the last decade, and can
> say that none of them offer anything that is unique or significantly
> better than their FOSS bretheren.  The coolest was Net Dynamics, which
> was bought out by Sun and disappeared in the mid-90s for some unknown
> reason.  Really the 'Jimi Hendrix of CMS', IMHO.  The others:
> Documentum, Day Interactive, Broadvision...  They will certainly take
> longer for you to setup than Mambo or any other garden variety
> PHP-based CMS.
>
> Ease to administer is a big subject that has not been mentioned yet in
> this thread, which should deserve more focus.
>
> -- Mitch
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP Talk
> Supporting AMP Technology (Apache/MySQL/PHP)
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> http://www.newyorkphp.org
>


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David Mintz
http://davidmintz.org/
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Mitch Pirtle wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 12:12:27 -0500, Andrew Yochum <andrew at digitalpulp.com> wrote:
> > Since you're just starting out I might suggest Mambo, but that depends
> > on what you're looking to do.  It does not offer flexible content types
> > and can often lead to messy and duplicate URLs for pages.  But it does
> > offer a really nice flexible system for building entire sites w/o coding
> > anything but a simple template.  The most recent release is leaps and
> > bounds greater than previous releases in terms of UI, features,
> > flexibility and stability, which were good to begin with.  Mitch might
> > have a bit to say about all of these things.
>
> I have a LOT to say, as anyone that has had to sit next to me already knows LOL
>
> Seriously, Mambo was geared for the non-technical, and sports a very
> simple web-based installation interface that is hard to beat.  We put
> a tremendous amount of time into that, and I would welcome any
> feedback, either positive or negative.
>
> Access to additional goodies at mosforge.net is another big draw.  The
> 3rd party development community for Mambo is huge and active, and you
> can download (and use a web installer) all kinds of stuff from a fancy
> flash analog clock to online stores...
>
> > > Another thing to keep in mind is cost.  If you're willing a little,
> > > you'll probably end up with a solid CMS.
> >
> > Though, you can spend a lot of money on a product and still spend a lot
> > of time/money customizing it to get what you want.  There are always
> > trade-offs.
>
> I have worked with all of the 'biggies' in the last decade, and can
> say that none of them offer anything that is unique or significantly
> better than their FOSS bretheren.  The coolest was Net Dynamics, which
> was bought out by Sun and disappeared in the mid-90s for some unknown
> reason.  Really the 'Jimi Hendrix of CMS', IMHO.  The others:
> Documentum, Day Interactive, Broadvision...  They will certainly take
> longer for you to setup than Mambo or any other garden variety
> PHP-based CMS.
>
> Ease to administer is a big subject that has not been mentioned yet in
> this thread, which should deserve more focus.
>
> -- Mitch
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP Talk
> Supporting AMP Technology (Apache/MySQL/PHP)
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> http://www.newyorkphp.org
>


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David Mintz
http://davidmintz.org/
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Mitch Pirtle wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 12:12:27 -0500, Andrew Yochum <andrew at digitalpulp.com> wrote:
> > Since you're just starting out I might suggest Mambo, but that depends
> > on what you're looking to do.  It does not offer flexible content types
> > and can often lead to messy and duplicate URLs for pages.  But it does
> > offer a really nice flexible system for building entire sites w/o coding
> > anything but a simple template.  The most recent release is leaps and
> > bounds greater than previous releases in terms of UI, features,
> > flexibility and stability, which were good to begin with.  Mitch might
> > have a bit to say about all of these things.
>
> I have a LOT to say, as anyone that has had to sit next to me already knows LOL
>

I wanna see a presentation -- hell, an infommercial, even -- about Mambo
at a nyphp meeting. Hans Z. et al:  sign him up!


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David Mintz
http://davidmintz.org/

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