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[inforequest]

I do apologize if anyone forwarded that to their boss as authoritative. 
If it creates problems, I'll search optimize your resume for free on the 
phrases of your choice :-)

Actually, I was playing with Java when the javascript stuff started. 
There seemed to be a very deliberate tie of js to Java, for the 
promotional effect in the market place. At that time Java was very 
young/small, but wildly popular, and it wasn't a big stretch to relate 
LiveScript to Java because there were indeed syntactical similarities 
(at the time) -- perhaps one of the biggest similarities being that they 
were both quite different from C/C++ and HTML. So LiveScript was renamed 
javascript to keep it alive as "new" and "fresh" and "worthy". I guess 
it worked.

Whenever I read that a recruiter said X was better than Y, I am urged to 
sell pieces of the Brooklyn Bridge, or tickets to the secret "Acoustic 
Elvis" show (it's a little known secret that Elvis lives, and still 
performs live on Monday nights at the NightLight Lounge in 
Bellingham,Washington). Of course there really are no pieces of the 
Brooklyn Bridge for sale (all of the pieces sink into the river 
immediately after falling off - duh.) and likewise every Bellingham 
local knows the NightLight Lounge closes to the public for the Elvis 
shows - there are no tickets to sell.

-=john andrews
http://www.seo-fun.com



Allen Shaw ashaw-at-polymerdb.org |nyphp dev/internal group use| wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>Having read John's posts here for a couple of years, my guess is his 
>tongue was planted so firmly in cheek that some people didn't notice. 
>If I'm right, I guess the fact that someone took him literally just 
>reflects how common such a "javascript == java light for script kiddies" 
>attitude is.  Nice, John.  :o)
>
>- Allen
>
>Morgan Craft wrote:
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>>I've never thought java was anymore difficult than php.  In fact JAVA 
>>was the first programming language I learned in college in my 
>>introductory computer sciences courses before moving on to C.  I picked 
>>up PHP because it seemed like a simple and fast web development language 
>>that gave me the flexibility to communicate with MySQL and Flash 
>>Actionscript.
>>
>>And JAVA and Javascript are nothing alike.  Javascript was made by 
>>someone at Netscape, not Sun.  And it wasn't even called Javascript at 
>>first.  Bleh, I could go on and on about the difference but I have work 
>>to do.
>>
>>I do enjoy the irony. Randal makes a jest about people not understanding 
>>the difference between Javascript/java and someone had to illustrate the 
>>point for us.  *bravo*
>>
>>inforequest wrote:
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>>>Randal Rust randalrust-at-gmail.com |nyphp dev/internal group use| wrote:
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>>>>On 12/14/05, Morgan Craft <morgan at forsalebyowner.com> wrote:
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>>>>>JAVA was by far a better programming language.
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>>>>The company that I work for is primarily a Java shop. The global HR
>>>>director sent out an email the other day regarding some new jobs that
>>>>were available. One of the requirements was something called JAVA
>>>>SCRIPT.
>>>>
>>>>There are a lot of people, especially in the public sector
>>>>environment, who still think that Java is king, and couldn't tell you
>>>>the difference between Java and Javascript.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Randal Rust
>>>>www.r2communications.com
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>>>PHP is a scripting language. JAVA is a real language.
>>>JAVA is a serious professional language capable of enterprise 
>>>applications, not just web sites. It is too hard for most script 
>>>programmers.
>>>Therefore they also have JAVA SCRIPT, which is like a lightweight JAVA, 
>>>made for script coders (like PHP coders who have graduated to something 
>>>more serious, but aren't yet ready for the complexity of JAVA).
>>>
>>>Right?
>>>
>>>-=john andrews
>>>http://www.seo-fun.com
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