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[Thomas O'Neill]

John,

Contact Zend sales tell them your situation and i bet you they will give you 
a free upgrade. They gave me one.

On 5/9/05, inforequest <1j0lkq002 at sneakemail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks in advance for any experience-based comments or suggestions.
> 
> I bought Zend Studio Pro at version 3, and never really used it. I
> encountered some annoyances on install (like what seemed to be a hang
> during install, which turned out to be a hidden console window awaiting
> a key press to continue) and difficulty getting the debugger to work
> properly with the server (turned out to be problems with the GUI
> labeling... we worked our way to success eventually). In the end the
> client/server aspects from the Windows client to a Linux server were a
> hassle. In my experience it was too slow, and not reliable for
> interactive debugging. I never got it to work smoothly from the notebook
> on and off the network. Because of the struggle I never fully adopted
> the client so I admit I didn't give the IDE a good chance to impress me.
> I still have the license for Safeguard (at v3.5) Performance Suite 3.6
> and Studio Pro 3.0 and Encoder 3.5 Plus, according to my Zend account.
> 
> Now with PHP 5 pretty widely available to me and all the progress I have
> seen from Zend I want to try again. Sadly, it seems everything I had
> before (still available for use) is not upgradeable to the current
> versions. I hardly see the point in buying it again, especially now that
> it costs even more.
> 
> So then there's the trial downloads. Available to try the product --
> seems a good idea, right?
> 
> Experienced as I am (whatever that is), I fully expect that a trial of a
> 4.x generation product, installed on my Windows machine, perhaps with
> their Windows enhancer (whatever that is), will muck up my system if I
> decide to use the 3.x product afterwards. You know, blind forward
> compatibility issues and all. Anybody using the 4 or have any hands-on
> experience that would help me out?
> 
> I know about the so-called "small business development" plan. Even if I
> qualified for it (gross revenue of $250k/year is hardly a reasonable
> limit for an east coast small business, even during "development") the
> same situation applies. Basically Zend is asking for between $1k and $5k
> *per year* for their product which is not insignificant for an IDE with
> debugger and encoder.
> 
> I was a user of NuSphere's PHP-IDE for a while prior to trying Zend 3,
> but I have never found enough bonus to the specialized IDE over UlraEdit
> or Textpad-configured. The debugger is the draw, so if it works well
> enough for me to be productive with it I want to use it.
> 
> Anybody care to tell me they *know* the trial versions will be a good
> experience? Or that I should rock on with my 3.x licenses? Or to save my
> time and continue the edit-post-refresh routine and accept that there
> really isn't a decent interactive debugger for the independent web
> developer?
> 
> One thinks about PHP certification, which leads to Zend, which suggests
> the IDE (again), which teases with promises of a real debugger and
> server-side toolkit.... is it time to try again?
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> -=john andrews
> 
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Tom O'Neill
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