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[Rob Marscher]

There's a proposal out there for DOM additions that would make this kind 
of thing easier:
http://whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#pushstate
I would guess it's a long way from being a reality and you'd probably 
still have to have the anchor method (with hacks for Safari) to support 
old browsers...

-Rob

Dell Sala wrote:
> I understand your concerns here, but I don't think Stephen has given 
> us enough information here to make a judgement one way or another. It 
> really depends on the usability requirements for each specific case. 
> I've been amazed how avoiding page reloads can improve user 
> experience, and even make the developers life easier, especially when 
> designing web apps with complex user interaction and state requirements.
>
> That being said, if it is just a case of a sub-nav for displaying 
> nested, non-interactive content, AJAX is probably overkill.
>
> ***
>
> The issue of "accurate" URLs, and possible solutions are documented 
> well on ajaxpaterns.org:
>
> http://ajaxpatterns.org/Unique_URLs
>
> -- Dell
>
>
> On Dec 14, 2006, at 12:11 PM, Chris Shiflett wrote:
>
>> Stephen Musgrave wrote:
>>> I have a designer who would like to have links on the subnav to
>>> NOT refresh the page.
>>
>> Ugh. Why not? Navigation links go to different pages (with presumably
>> different content), therefore the URL should change. I'm sure you can
>> manage to use Ajax and other client-side technologies to mimic going to
>> a different page (changing the URL and such), but this is a perfect
>> example of misusing Ajax.
>>
>> Just so it doesn't sound like I'm anti-Ajax, there are situations where
>> it can be useful. One example is a comment form with a preview. To
>> display the preview, you could use Ajax to exchange the minimum amount
>> of information with the server as necessary (to process the comment
>> using whatever filtering/formatting is already in place on the server)
>> and display the preview on the current page. The URL would not change,
>> but from a user's perspective, the page hasn't changed either, so 
>> it's OK.
>>
>> That's my opinion. :-)
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> --Chris Shiflett
>> http://shiflett.org/
>
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