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[nycphp-talk] VERY user friendly php-compatible CMS

Halter, Shari SHalter at ThorntonTomasetti.com
Fri Feb 9 14:14:07 EST 2007


I added tinyMCE and it was just getting to the actual content piece that
threw them.  They wanted to edit it "on the page".  I think there's a lack
of understanding about the back-end, or else a wishful desire for wizardry
that may not exist.
 
Oh, yes, and thank you for reminding me Hans, another snag:  they are
fanatical about URLs, to the point where I have to redirect everything into
a directory called "/home".
 



Shari L. Halter 
Web Programmer, Corporate Services 
Thornton Tomasetti 
51 Madison Avenue 
New York, NY  10010 
T 917.661.7800  F 917.661.7801   
D 917.661.7970   
SHalter at ThorntonTomasetti.com 


 

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From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On
Behalf Of Aaron Deutsch
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 2:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] VERY user friendly php-compatible CMS


I'm just starting with drupal 5.x    Did you add the fckeditor module to the
text editors?   (Allowing you MS Word style buttons)





On 2/9/07, Hans C. Kaspersetz <hans at cyberxdesigns.com
<mailto:hans at cyberxdesigns.com> > wrote: 

Halter, Shari wrote:
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> I am not familiar with Joomla, but I wonder how it would compare at the
> front end?
>

My group has been customizing and installing Joomla for a couple of 
years.  It offers inline editing using a wysiwig.  It has it quirks but
works very well for our customers.  We usually write a small manual that
summarizes the full Joomla manual and covers just the features the 
customer will be using.  And we customize the administrative interface
to remove access to the nasty bits the users may not need.  Joomla does
create some ugly URLS and the templating is nav driven, so these can be 
headaches also.  You can access the same piece of content through more
then 1 URL even if that URL is not defined in the navigation.  This can
be a problem for some and needs to be considered.  If you install
Joomla, take some time to download and read the manual.  It is very
helpful.  Ahh!!!  One more thing.  1 piece of content can only be
categorized into one Section/Category.  This can be a problem if a piece
of content should truly be in categorized in two places at once.   This 
can be handled creatively.

I would strongly recommend avoiding contribute.   It is like an evil
pink Cool-Aide.  It scales very very poorly.   The template control
system is awful.  If you want to make a change to a main navigational 
element through Contribute, it will download every page and make the
change.  The process of downloading, updating and uploading hundreds or
thousands of pages takes a long time and is failure prone.  Nothing in 
contribute is database driven, it is purely file driven.  It is nice for
the first 10-25 pages of a site.  Beyond that and thing get very
difficult to manage.

Just my $.02.

Hans K

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