[nycphp-talk] Never heard that term: Viet Nam of programming

tedd tedd at
Wed Jan 24 14:39:42 EST 2007

At 8:01 AM -0500 1/24/07, Kenneth Downs wrote:
>That was a nice presentation last night by Chuck.
>One thing that struck me was that term for ORM, the "Viet Nam of 
>programming", I am definitely one of those who will go so far as to 
>call it that.  My own analogy before hearing this one was "heroin 
>for programmers", they get hooked on it and start dreaming big 
>dreams and nothing gets done.

Interesting characterization -- Obviously, it's not Vietnam, but 
instead those who served in Vietnam that are the object of that 
characterization.  Are Vietnam Vets commonly thought of as "getting 
hooked on it and start dreaming big dreams and nothing gets done"? 
Just wondering why Vietnam Vets are thought of in such terms.

Hopefully not, but perhaps 30 years from now Iraqi Vets will be the 
blunt of such negative comments by younger and obviously naive 
civilians. Sad state of affairs I think.


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