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[nycphp-talk] My first symfony site

Jon Baer jonbaer at jonbaer.com
Tue Nov 20 10:52:05 EST 2007


Thanks for sharing your experience.

The migrations technique looks extremely promising (and familiar :-) ...

http://doctrine.pengus.net/index.php/documentation/manual?chapter=migration

- Jon

On Nov 20, 2007, at 7:42 AM, Paul Houle wrote:

>   I just finished a small project with symfony at
>
> http://spoonriveranthology.net/
>
>   There are a lot of cool things about the site,  such as a drag and  
> drop editor for relationships between people,  that are in an  
> administrative interface that you can't see.
>
>   Overall I like the symfony approach to things:  I've got slightly  
> different opinions about how to configure multiple site instances,   
> but it's easy to reconcile my ideas with symfony's.
>
>   I don't care for Propel ORM much -- in particular,  Propel doesn't  
> have good mechanisms for managing schema changes...  Everything  
> works OK if you never change your schema,  but adding a plug-in  
> after you've got data in your database may trash your database if  
> you follow the instructions.  I do like the idea,  however,  of  
> putting my own methods on the ORM-generated classes.  It can be a  
> nice way to organize code.
>
>   Doctrine ORM ,  however,  looks like a dream.  My next symfony  
> project will use Doctrine,  even though that means fewer plugins and  
> builders will be available.
>
>   Symfony's documentation is better than other PHP frameworks,  but  
> it's still in a place where I needed to look at the source code  
> often to understand how things ~really~ work.  That's unfortunate,   
> because many of the people who need frameworks the most are people  
> who'd be intimidated by the work to make them work.
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