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[nycphp-talk] Newbie books

porciem at FARMINGDALE.EDU porciem at FARMINGDALE.EDU
Mon Oct 13 17:03:08 EDT 2008


Sorry.....
I was "thinking" Perl while reading the PHP listserv.  
My apologies.  

Margaret M. Porciello
Professor - Computer Systems Department
Farmingdale State College
2350 Broadhollow Road
Farmingdale, NY 11735



-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On
Behalf Of Justin Dearing
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 3:44 PM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Newbie books

Professor Porciello,

I'm quite confused here. The book is called programming perl, and the
cover indicated it also has a Python edition to it. Also your
responding to an email on a php list about a person that wants to
learn PHP better.

So, does this book have a PHP section? Are you suggesting that this is
the best book on OOP out there and the OP would be best served
learning OOP theory from it?

There is one negative review on Amazon saying that the authors seem to
rewrite the same book over and over again in different languages, and
that perl due to its weirdness is not well served by this book. IMHO
That *MIGHT* would serve as a positive review in this case, because
the problem with perl is you can write it in any paradim you want
,procedural, functional, OO, etc. If this book is designed around
generic OOP principles that apply to other languages, instead of
teaching you all the perlisms, both good and bad, then it might have
merit to a PHP Programmer

Corey,

Just out of curosity, do you disagree with the syntax of static
function, or just not understand their purpose? Can you suggest a
syntax you would prefer? The syntax btw is taken from C++. It is
obtuse on one hand, but on the other hand its immediatly clear your
calling a static function for a class and not a member function of an
object.

Regards,

Justin Dearing



On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:16 PM,  <porciem at farmingdale.edu> wrote:
> I would recommend an older book - the Deitel book - Perl How to Program.
> Amazon has it
>
(http://www.amazon.com/Perl-How-Program-Harvey-Deitel/dp/0130284181/ref=cm_cr
> _pr_product_top), and there are reviews on their site that are very
> favorable.
> Margaret M. Porciello
> Professor - Computer Systems Department
> Farmingdale State College
> 2350 Broadhollow Road
> Farmingdale, NY 11735
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On
> Behalf Of Corey H Maass - gelform.com
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 1:38 PM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: [nycphp-talk] Newbie books
>
> Hey, all. I wanted to introduce myself. I'm an experienced programmer
> (remember ASP, before dont net?) with little formal training, so often
> referred to as a hacker. I'm a professional Front End Dev - XHTML, CSS,
> JS - now tackling PHP and loving it. A couple coworkers recommended this
> list, so I'll be eavesdropping.
>
> I'm looking to go thru a book or two and need some help. I know all
> about loops, conditional statements, and the basics of programming. I
> understand the concepts behind OOP, but have limited experience with
> actually using it. I immediately grasped the basics of the PHP syntax
> but am starting to balk at the double colon meaning a static class and
> the single vs double arrow... So I guess I'm looking for something
> intermediate, and wondering if anyone can make a suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Corey
>
> //
> Corey H Maass
> Gelform Design
> Brooklyn, NY
> Print and web design for art and business
>
> em corey at gelform.com
> ww http://www.gelform.com
> ph 646/228.5048
> fx 866/502.4861
> IM gelform
>
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