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[Guilherme Blanco]

Nice to meet you too!!!

I just can't remember why I joined the mailing list... I'm from São
Paulo, Brazil! =) IIRC, it was due to good discussions on this list.

Cheers,

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:04 PM,  <y2rob at aol.com> wrote:
> ahh yes..nice.  cool nice to meet you and btw, i mean that "i am currently
> working with doctrine" in my last email.
>
> nice to see some great people are on this mailing list!!!
>
> sincerely,
> ~rob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guilherme Blanco <guilhermeblanco at gmail.com>
> To: NYPHP Talk <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> Sent: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 2:16 pm
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] ORM that uses more advanced MySQL features
>
> Specially for people like you, Doctrine provide a couple of CLI tasks
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> that can do a lot of things.
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>
>
> For example... you can define your models into an YAML file, and simply
> call:
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>
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> php ./doctrine.php generate-models-yaml
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>
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> It'll generate all models based on the YAML schema.
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> Then, simply do:
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>
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> php ./doctrine.php generate-sql
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>
>
> And you'll have an optimized SQL file in the specified folder... or,
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> if you want to automatically apply the SQLs in DB...
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>
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> php ./doctrine.php build-all-reload
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> This task will create models from YAML, execute the SQLs in DB and
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> also import any basic import data that is defined through fixtures. To
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> import only the fixtures:
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> php ./doctrine.php load-data
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>
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>
> T
> here're some people that already have some legacy code (like you) and
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> wants to migrate to Doctrine. The CLI command of Doctrine provide one
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> specific command to grab everything from your DB and generate the
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> models automatically.
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>
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> php ./doctrine.php generate-models-db
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>
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> The only issue with this command is the relations between each table,
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> which cannot be built automatically, since the DESC TABLE XXX may
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> different between all supported DBMS, aswell in the same DBMS, each
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> version may be different. We could not make it be built automatically.
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>
> Currently Doctrine is in version 1.1.0, we're about to release 1.1.1.
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> Also we'll release 1.0.9, which is our LTS (Long Term/Time Support)
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> version.
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>
>
> Manual is full of details about CLI tasks... to configure the CLI task
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> is quite trivial... a 15 lines scripts and you have all the power of
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> Doctrine at the palm of your hands.
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> BTW... I'm one of the core developers of Doctrine if you didn't notice! =D
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> Cheers,
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:42 PM,  <y2rob at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> i've heard about doctrine and i am not working with it, and i love and
>> hate
>
>> it.  i think once you spend the time to set it up (minus certain quirks
>> with
>
>> doctrine migrations),  it will do a pretty decent job, but if you have a
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>> large (and i mean large) database, you'll can spend a good amount of time
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>> creating your models before=2
> 0you start doing actual php coding.
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>>
>
>> the point being, is if i were to start a project and if i deemed it worthy
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>> to use doctrine as the model in an mvc style project, then it's great (esp
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>> for migrations), but if i had an existing huge database and you wanted to
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>> refactor the project and wanted minimal development time with great
>> results,
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>> i would lean more towards using a framework like codeigniter.  minimal
>> model
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>> defining and rapid development with fairly great retrieval of data, and
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>> method chaining.
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>>
>
>> it all depends on the situation
>
>>
>
>> ~rob
>
>> ps - sorry for going on the tangent
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>>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From: Guilherme Blanco <guilhermeblanco at gmail.com>
>
>> To: NYPHP Talk <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
>
>> Sent: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:46 pm
>
>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] ORM that uses more advanced MySQL features
>
>>
>
>> Doctrine_View is able to handle views in any DBMS.
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>>
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>> Also, you can manually map the view if you want to work on updatable
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>> views, just like Oracle supports.
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>>
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>> Stored procedures works on the fly, just like a common function call.
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>> Doctrine does something like that:
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>> In case DQL can interpret it, apply the custom workarounds, otherwise,
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>> just bypass it to DBMS driver.
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>>
>
>> If not enough, you can use Doctrine_RawSql
>  to create your custom DBMS
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>> specific call, when DQL is not smart enough to handle the query
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>> (something like UNIONS or SELECT of a selected query table: SELECT *
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>> FROM (SELECT ...))
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>>
>
>> If you need more guidance on it, feel free to subscribe to
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>> doctrine-user or doctrine-dev mailing lists.
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>> We also have IRC channel at freenode #doctrine and a forum in the website.
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>>
>
>> Finally... manual have been updated a lot recently. We're releasing a
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>> printed version in the next couple of weeks.
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>>
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>>
>
>> Cheers,
>
>>
>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Marcelo Araujo
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>> <marcelosaraujo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Since when, Guilherme?
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>>>
>
>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Guilherme Blanco
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>>> <guilhermeblanco at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> www.doctrine-project.org
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>>>>
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>>>> =)
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>>>>
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>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Ajai Khattri <ajai@ bitblit.net> wrote:
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>>>>>
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>>>>> Does anyone know of an ORM that can use views and stored procedures in
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>>>>> MySQL?
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Guilherme Blanco - Web Developer
CBC - Certified Bindows Consultant
Cell Phone: +55 (16) 9215-8480
MSN: guilhermeblanco at hotmail.com
URL: http://blog.bisna.com
São Paulo - SP/Brazil