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[Daniel Max Kestin]

I've had success using the amfphp system.  Have not tried Zend's.  Either
way, you can definitely use just amf communication - without using the rest
of a huge mvc package.

Check out http://amfphp.org/

These websites were very helpful to me in figuring out the configuration:
http://www.howtoforge.com/amfphp_adobe_flex2_sdk
http://viconflex.blogspot.com/2007/04/mapping-vos-from-flex-to-php-using.html

The main reason I'm sticking with amfphp is because of their amf service
browser - which makes debugging VERY easy.

Unlike one of the other posters, I've had no trouble debugging amf objects
at all.  I never had reason to try and look at the binary content... I put
break-points in the flex builder to see what objects look like in the
debugger when they come over from PHP - and I put error_log()-type
statements in the php code to see what data looks like coming over from
Flex.

All in all, I've found amf to be very easy to work with.
Good luck!

--Daniel



> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Artur Marnik <artur at marnik.net> wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> >
> > From what I read I can use just zend_amf without the framework - does
> anyone
> > has any experience with it?
> >
>
> I have experience with amfphp, and it works as promised  (no
> experience with Zend_AMF).  However, if I could do it over again, I
> would probably just use json / json-rpc.  AMF is a really tight
> serialization format, but it makes debugging a pain in the neck
> because it is not human readable.  AMF has some performance advantages
> if you are sending loads of binary data, and it has features for
> dynamic record sets.
>
> I avoid XML where possible for communicating with the client.  With
> XML you have to write custom code to serialize and deserialize, or
> bundle a massive soap library on the client side.
>
> -John Campbell
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:18:44 -0500
> From: Daniel Convissor <danielc at analysisandsolutions.com>
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Can I set the response code if a PHP Fatal
>        error   occurs?
> To: NYPHP Talk <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> Message-ID: <20090217231844.GA699 at panix.com>
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>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:09:25AM -0500, Daniel Horning wrote:
> >
> > Something as simple as an "ErrorDocument 200
> /path/to/other.notify.script"
> > in htaccess or in apache conf should allow you to reach this goal
>
> An application I work on uses JSON to communicate.  I've adjusted our
> .htaccess file to print out a JSON string.  Note: pick only ONE,
> depending on which version of Apache is in play.  Note: remove line wrap.
>
> In Apache 1.3:
>
>   ErrorDocument 500 "var response = {"code":500,"message":"Apache
>   server error"};
>
> In Apache >= 2.0:
>
>   ErrorDocument 500 "var response = {\"code\":500,\"message\":\"Apache
>   server error\"};"
>
> --Dan
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:56:55 -0500
> From: Artur Marnik <artur at marnik.net>
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] PHP and Flex
> To: NYPHP Talk <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> Message-ID: <499BB137.5060906 at marnik.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Thanks for the link Ricky
> and I will get php|architect as well
>
> Artur
>
> Ricky Robinett wrote:
> > Hey Artur,
> >
> > I have some experience creating Flex/AIR applications that communicate
> with PHP using Zend_Amf. My preference is to use the zend amf without the
> MVC structure. Especially if the front end is entirely Flex.
> >
> > If you have any questions about the setup feel free to drop me a line.
> >
> > Wade Arnold's blog is a really great resource:
> > http://wadearnold.com/blog/
> >
> > As well, there are a couple articles in the newest issue of php|architect
> about Flex/AIR and PHP (disclaimer: I wrote one of them).
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Ricky
> >
> >
> > .....................................
> > Ricky Robinett
> > Developer
> > Zend Certified Engineer, PHP5
> > Adobe Certified Expert, ColdFusion 8
> >
> > Nylon Technology
> > 350 7th Avenue, 10th Floor
> > New York, NY 10001
> >
> > 212.691.1134 x25 direct
> > 212.691.3477 fax
> > ricky at nylontechnology.com
> > www.nylontechnology.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
> On Behalf Of Artur Marnik
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:22 PM
> > To: NYPHP Talk
> > Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP and Flex
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> > Recently I've started creating some project using PHP on the back-end
> > and Flex on the front-end and so far I was using XML files for data
> transfer
> >
> > Recently I started testing with zend framework and zend_amf
> > do you think that for project that is using just flex on the user side I
> > should use zend framework and their MVC structure? or it is just to much
> > of a hassle with little benefit?
> >
> >  From what I read I can use just zend_amf without the framework - does
> > anyone has any experience with it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Artur
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:32:24 -0500
> From: "Peter Sawczynec" <ps at blu-studio.com>
> Subject: [nycphp-talk] A Footnote on IBM
> To: "'Org, Talk at Nyphp.'" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> Message-ID: <004001c991cd$567c9c20$0375d460$@com>
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> Being as NYPHP has an informal working rapport w/ IBM, I thought this
> article might be worth a note to the list:
> http://www.itexaminer.com/ibm-pulls-out-of-us.aspx
>
>
> Warmest regards,
> ?
> Peter Sawczynec
> Technology Dir.
> bl?studio
> 941.893.0396
> ps at blu-studio.com
> www.blu-studio.com
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:33:54 -0500
> From: Artur Marnik <artur at marnik.net>
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] PHP and Flex
> To: NYPHP Talk <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> Message-ID: <499C1C52.506 at marnik.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> I need to transfer a lot of binary data and in addition I need it to be
> as much dynamic as possible so I will try to use zend_amf then but
> without MVC structure - I think it is too much for small one-man project
>
> Artur
>
>
>
> John Campbell wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Artur Marnik <artur at marnik.net> wrote:
> >> Hi all
> >>
> >>
> >> From what I read I can use just zend_amf without the framework - does
> anyone
> >> has any experience with it?
> >>
> >
> > I have experience with amfphp, and it works as promised  (no
> > experience with Zend_AMF).  However, if I could do it over again, I
> > would probably just use json / json-rpc.  AMF is a really tight
> > serialization format, but it makes debugging a pain in the neck
> > because it is not human readable.  AMF has some performance advantages
> > if you are sending loads of binary data, and it has features for
> > dynamic record sets.
> >
> > I avoid XML where possible for communicating with the client.  With
> > XML you have to write custom code to serialize and deserialize, or
> > bundle a massive soap library on the client side.
> >
> > -John Campbell
> > _______________________________________________
> > New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List
> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> >
> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
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