NYCPHP Meetup

[Kristina Anderson]

A little bird told me that top-posting == bad :)

And Mitch, I think you are a little overqualified for the NBC gig...

David -- As a former ASP/VB Programmer, I took tons of flak for not 
being a "real programmer" as you mentioned occurs ... to which I used 
to respond, do the numbers on this paycheck look REAL to you?  Hmm...  

That's why I'm happy to give Drupal a shot...it's where the market is, 
and if there's one thing I've learned in the IT field it's where the 
market goeth...there goeth I.

That's why I ditched Microsoft like a boring blind date when they 
started the .NET nonsense...I'm just that kind of gal. :)

- Kristina

> 
> As a former developer and contributor to the original core of 
Thrillist.com
> (built with Drupal 5.x), I can safely say that it is the wrong 
technology
> for a lot of websites.  It may be great for what Mitch 
stated, "community
> sites" but other than that it is a failure in many respects.  Even 
with 6.x
> there are major scalability issues and most of the major modules 
available
> have poor contribution support which means when they break you are 
S.O.L.
> (but that is with any Open Source software and I won't go on because 
Drupal
> gave me a venue to start my career).
> 
> My big concern is that these companies consider products like Drupal a
> "framework" when they are not, especially NBC.  Many of our careers 
start
> with different pieces of technology, mine started with Drupal and I 
have on
> since then and have been working heavily with CakePHP and I can easily
> duplicate many of Drupal's modules quite easily within a few hours.  
It is
> all relative to your position at the time, and if you are making 
money using
> Drupal, who cares what anyone else says.
> 
> Also Mitch, viva la Vi! ;)
> 
> -Anthony
> 
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> 
wrote:
> 
> > Hey Webmaster,
> >
> > I'm a Joomla founder so I should be as biased as they come. My only
> > complaint about Drupal is folks calling it a framework, which it is
> > not.
> >
> > That aside, Drupal is experiencing huge growth and many developers 
are
> > taking advantage of it as their base platform for developing sites. 
A
> > strength is community sites, where Drupal's flexibility really 
shines.
> >
> > I suspect this person you are referring to (the offending Tweeter, 
er,
> > Twit) is just a troll starting up another tired round of vi-vs-
emacs,
> > linux-vs-osx, and so on... Drupal is great, and to be blunt, ALL
> > current frameworks, platforms and languages have reached a level of
> > maturity that you choose what fits the way you like to think, and 
like
> > to code.
> >
> > -- Mitch
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:12 AM,  <webmaster at vbplusme.com> wrote:
> > > Hello NYPHP,
> > >
> > > I have seen a few posts here about DRUPAL and decided to take a 
look
> > > at it to see if it might be useful for some of my projects.
> > >
> > > I noticed a few days ago that someone did a Twitter post and said 
that
> > > DRUPAL is what you use when you are a "failed" programmer. From 
what I
> > > can see so far, DRUPAL seems to be a "core" that pretty much takes
> > > care of all the "busy work" that you would normally have to spend 
huge
> > > amounts of time on if you were programming a site from scratch, 
i.e.
> > > user authorization, permissions, etc. etc. I don't see that this 
makes
> > > for the argument that anyone who uses it is a "failed" programmer 
and
> > > if that is indeed true, what makes cumbersome frameworks like 
CAKE or
> > > equivalent software not fall into the same "failed" programmer
> > > category.
> > >
> > > I realize that this was a "shoot from the hip" comment but would
> > > really like to hear other opinions about it. So far, I don't see 
the
> > > correlation between DRUPAL and "failed" programmer, what am I 
missing?
> > >
> > > TIA for any comments.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > >  Webmaster                          mailto:webmaster at vbplusme.com
> > >
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> 
> -- 
> Anthony W.
> ant92083 at gmail.com
> 
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