[nycphp-jobs] CTO/Lead Engineer Opportunity
mark at workmarket.com
mark at workmarket.com
Mon Apr 11 18:21:51 EDT 2011
I certainly found the post to be quite original. Nik's just being upfront
about the type of person they are looking for. In a start up, culture is as
important as talent.
BTW, I work with Ni. He has never showed up to work drunk and has never
passed out from excessive drinking. And yes, he's older than 25.
Cheers!
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:50 PM, guilhermeblanco at gmail.com <
guilhermeblanco at gmail.com> wrote:
> Guys,
>
> I think you're being rude with the original poster.
> He is just selling his fish, like you do almost daily on this list.
>
> I never directly spoke with Kristina, neither I live in US (I'm
> actually from Brazil), but I found her first email very aggressive and
> rude.
>
> I think the guy was trying to say he wants someone to be a CTO that
> has "Open Team" in mind.
> What I said here is something that I would love to see in whatever
> company I'd work for. This talk from Cal Evans illustrates a lot what
> employees expect from their bosses:
>
> http://blog.calevans.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Open-Teams1.pdf
>
> Maybe the guy used wrong words (I love to drink a beer at work, but
> it's also prohibited in Brazil - I just think it shouldn't be
> mentioned on job posting), but it's his way to do so. It's the same
> thing if any of you misspell something - as I probably did -, and in
> 20min appears tons of emails making fun of it.
>
> I expect more maturity not only on job postings, but also from anyone
> that follows this list.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Edward Prevost <Me at edwardprevost.info>
> wrote:
> > You know I usually try to just ignore you Kristina,
> >
> > But you're once again (I think your sophomoric statements about
> > Coldfusion was the last cause for me to pipe-up) creating an atmosphere
> > to this list that I find "a total turnoff", and a sad reflection of your
> > character.
> >
> > The reason this list exists is for those with professional PHP skills to
> > have an easily accessible stream of available positions. If a poster
> > posts positions that are most surely PHP intensive, and if they do so
> > with a passion as to attract a particular type of candidate, it is
> > completely within the scope of this list.
> >
> > I'd rather have more posts of that than "Python programmer needed... who
> > may have seen the letters 'P','H' and 'P' coupled together in a sentence
> > at some point in time" type posts.
> >
> > Your hateful, insulting and just plain liable (The poster never
> > mentioned age requirements) comments are in no way, shape or form
> > helping people using this list, nor fairly representing the intelligent
> > and professional subscription base. If you have criticisms to offer of
> > the poster, having perhaps first-hand experience that an
> > environment/position is not as it is being portrayed, then by all means
> > share; but to just take the opportunity to lash-out at a post that you
> > feel doesn't cater particularly to you and your employment needs is
> > immature and ultimately poorly reflective of the professionals on this
> list.
> >
> > Mr Bonaddio I apologize on behalf of the list for Kristina's lack of
> > wisdom in responding to your post, and I appreciate you taking the time
> > and interest to post to our list, and to seek to describe the
> > environment of your organization clearly. There are certainly members
> > of this list that would find your available position intriguing, and
> > there are others that may be very uninterested; alas, this is always the
> > case in any industry, but your attempt to be up-front about the
> > atmosphere I commend and appreciate.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ed
> >
> > On 4/11/2011 5:23 PM, Kristina Anderson wrote:
> >> Us old ladies don't know ANYTHING about music, we listen to that, you
> >> know, old lady type music.
> >> We just would NOT fit in, it's quite certain.
> >>
> >> On 4/11/2011 4:56 PM, Norm Shulman wrote:
> >>> Doesn't the music choice say - " only Hipsters Need Apply" :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org
> >>> [mailto:jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On
> >>> Behalf Of Kristina Anderson
> >>> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 4:53 PM
> >>> To: Matt Juszczak
> >>> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] CTO/Lead Engineer Opportunity
> >>>
> >>> It may be becoming more common, but it's a total turnoff to most
> >>> people. It
> >>> doesn't seem like good business to limit oneself to hiring those
> >>> under 25
> >>> and/or those with alcohol abuse problems, especially for
> >>> a CTO position...? You're automatically excluding the best talent
> from
> >>> the search from the get-go, and attracting the sort of employee who
> >>> won't be
> >>> able to do the work properly, thereby resulting in a poor product.
> >>>
> >>> There's no way a job post like that can yield any "top talent".
> >>>
> >>> On 4/11/2011 4:46 PM, Matt Juszczak wrote:
> >>>> Kristina,
> >>>>
> >>>> In their defense, this kind of agile, work hard, play hard environment
> >>>> is becoming much more common. One of the largest start-ups I know
> >>>> gladly gives free alcohol to their employees, and yes, they drink
> >>>> during the day. But no is irresponsible, and it's been rated one of
> >>>> the top companies to work for. Like Nik's company (I assume), they
> >>>> are looking for top talent and wouldn't hire people who are likely to
> >>>> abuse the system. My guess is (though I don't know Nik) that his
> >>>> company also has an extremely relaxed vacation policy, because it
> >>>> isn't about the time you take, it's about the work you accomplish.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Matt
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Kristina Anderson wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> These are the sorts of job posts that just make me look forward to
> >>>>> switching to a different career... "kegerator"& "beer pong"?
> >>>>> I should want to hang out with you outside of work and watch you
> >>>>> drink until you puke while listening to loud rock& roll music?
> >>>>> (From the tone of the below it seems like you may be doing this
> >>>>> during the workday!)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Clearly nobody in this awesome company has yet seen their 25th
> >>>>> birthday...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 4/11/2011 3:47 PM, Nik Bonaddio wrote:
> >>>>> I'm not a recruiter. Recruiters are lame and have no idea what
> >>>>> they're doing. I know exactly what I'm looking for, so I'm
> >>>>> posting here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Let's start with the boring stuff up front: We're a small,
> >>>>> agile, well-trafficked startup in the sports analytics space.
> >>>>> We've been covered by TechCrunch, we've been written up in
> >>>>> Sports Illustrated, and now we're going to revolutionize the
> >>>>> way
> >>>>> users consume and engage with sports content. Our founders are
> >>>>> ballers, our advisors are even more ballerous, and just wait
> >>>>> until you see our product..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you're someone who loves sports and also loves building
> >>>>> products, then we're your company. Even if you're not a huge
> >>>>> sports fan, feel free to reach out to us - we're more
> >>>>> interested
> >>>>> in someone who knows how to get stuff done. If you're
> wondering
> >>>>> what kind of people we're like socially, we have a kegerator
> in
> >>>>> our office and our most played artist on iTunes is Animal
> >>>>> Collective. You should be able to get our jokes and we
> >>>>> should be
> >>>>> able to want to hang out with you outside of work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Our stack is built on PHP and MySQL, but we're considering
> >>>>> moving to Couch or Mongo. What do you suggest? We'd love to
> >>>>> know. We have a world-class designer and front-end developer
> on
> >>>>> board, we need to find someone who is comfortable on the PHP
> >>>>> backend, taking things from the browser-level all the way down
> >>>>> to the DB. We're not looking for someone who is merely good;
> >>>>> we're looking for great - '85 Bears great. Lemieux in the
> 91-92
> >>>>> playoffs great. Lemonade and BBQ on a Summer afternoon great.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Skillsets:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> o Excellent PHP skills (should be comfortable building out
> an
> >>>>> application scalable to 100,000 daily uniques)
> >>>>> o Knowledgeable of system-wide architecture (setting up
> >>>>> version control, release engineering structs, etc.)
> >>>>> o Comfortable working in a fast-paced startup setting
> >>>>> o Familiarity with beer pong and general precepts of social
> >>>>> skill
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nice to have:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> o Familiarity with HTML/CSS/jQuery (not totally necessary as
> >>>>> we already have a world-class designer and front-end)
> >>>>> o Sports fan (big, big plus - let us know what your favorite
> >>>>> team is)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What we're not:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> o Some huge, boring company where you'll have meetings about
> >>>>> meetings
> >>>>> o A company that works in a space that you could care less
> >>>>> about
> >>>>> o A startup that values founder's valuations over the future
> >>>>> gains of the employees
> >>>>> o A company founded by a bunch of suits who can't code Hello
> >>>>> World in BASIC
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Even though we're a startup, this is a salary position. We'll
> >>>>> shell out for the right employee. There is also a TON of
> equity
> >>>>> involved; you're the third employee and huge part of our
> future
> >>>>> success - we'll take care of you. You should ideally be in
> NYC,
> >>>>> but that won't stop us from moving forward with the right
> >>>>> person.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To apply, just send us a resume (please send
> >>>>> nik at numberfire.com)
> >>>>> and we'll go from there.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
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