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[Zachary Fuller]

That's great to hear Phil!  I'll download your trial and check out  
the interface.  One thing I'm not sure if you've had a request for is  
this:

Obviously to create a really "fancy" letter, someone experienced  
enough to create a page in Dreamweaver or GoLive and upload the page  
and images could handle it, then send that url or page as the letter.

Most of my clients, however, barely know what "Dream-receiver" is,  
and want to send email newsletters but require using the SAME editor  
they use in Joomla (after being trained) to create their letter!   
This way they learn ONE system, and can style (I can provide some  
custom CSS selectors for use in the editor) the letter as they wish  
as easily as they do in creating new content.  So if your system lets  
me create newsletters with the standard editor and inside Joomla,  
that's great!

Technically I have some practical concerns perhaps some of you all  
can add to. I often deal with folks that are either technically  
naive, or elderly and just want it to "work." I need a system that  
will perform reliably and "safely" (read: no work-arounds to muck  
through). They also deal with large lists (in the 1,000's).

1. Since Joomla does not create static (physical) pages, how will  
this affect sending a newsletter using the standard (mosCE) editor  
and image insertion?
2. Does mosListMessenger use the same method of building pages as  
Joomla (images on server, data in database), or does it "build" a  
physical page and store it on the server for sending and later  
retrieval?
3. Will all this work with some kind of SEF component so I can use a  
URL like http://mysite.com/newsletter/letter_01-01-06.html ?
4. Can I create a newsletter from the front-end?

To put it simply, I want to be able to log-in, create a newsletter  
with the standard Joomla editor, CSS, and images in the /stories  
folder.  Then send the resulting pages' URL as the newsletter (I  
would paste the plain-text in where appropriate).

Thanks for the help. Great discussion on newsletters folks!

Joel



On Feb 2, 2006, at 11:43 PM, Graham Spice wrote:

> Awesome - thanks for proving me wrong, Phil! I'll look into it as this
> is something I've been looking for for a while now.
>
> Cheers-
> Graham Spice
>
>
>> From: Phil Taylor <nyphp at phil-taylor.com>
>>
>> That is not true :-)  The patch to Joomla registration of adding new
>> users to mosLM is available at http://www.phil-taylor.com/Trial
>>
>> Phil Taylor
>> Developer of mosListMessenger!
>>
>>
>> Graham Spice wrote:
>>
>>
>>> There is no API available for PHPlist...yet. There has been  
>>> discussion
>>> about the beginnings of an API and the SOAP protocol on the  
>>> developer
>>> discussion list in the past few weeks. Things could open up there
>>> quickly from what I can tell.
>>>
>>> You can read the emails between the developers here:
>>> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.phplist.devel See the thread
>>> called: Web Service Interface to PHPList
>>>
>>> Other newsletter related forum posts
>>>
>>>    * http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic, 
>>> 30369.msg193037.html#msg193037
>>>    * http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,12735.0.html
>>>
>>> On Feb 2, 2006, at 1:15 PM, Norman ONeil wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> You could also try phplist if you want a challenge, the other pay
>>>>> for one is put out by http://www.phil-taylor.com and is called  
>>>>> mos/
>>>>> jos listmessenger. The latter one is integrated into joomla quite
>>>>> nicely, but still missing bounce processing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> I disagree with this last statement because mosListMessenger does  
>>> not
>>> integrate with Joomla's user data! There used to be a hack available
>>> to automatically sign someone up for the newsletter when they
>>> registered but that is no longer available. Being able to use  
>>> Joomla's
>>> user data is is critical to the integration, IMHO. Related forum  
>>> post:
>>>
>>>    * http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic, 
>>> 34399.msg192820.html#msg192820
>>>
>>> Cheers-
>>> Graham Spice
>>>
>
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