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Phil Taylor
nyphp at phil-taylor.com
Fri Feb 3 19:13:30 EST 2006
You can link to the public archive of all sent newsletters using a
crafted url like
http://www.phil-taylor.com/index.php?option=com_lm&task=archive
for example
Phil.
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Zachary Fuller wrote:
> Hi Phil,
>
> Thanks so much for your help. This looks like what I want. I'll buy it
> myself and give it a go for my own newsletter and recommend site/s use
> it if all looks good.
>
> Yes, I know about the mosCE option to use absolute URLs. I see why
> this is important. Thanks.
>
> re: SEF. I suppose this is not necessary if it works as you say. I
> was thinking in terms of a "physical URL" they could access later for
> archives, but this is not really necessary as I see now looking at the
> demo.
>
> I gave the demo a look-see. Fantastic! This is exactly what I was
> looking for. I suppose if I was to get anal, I'd request a feature of
> editing a "basic" newsletter creation ability through the front-end,
> but given the lack of quality newsletters for Joomla now it seems a
> front-runner. --Not to insult anyone's hard work on other systems of
> course! BTW, I'm a phil-a-form owner as well.
>
> Right! Thanks,
> Joel
>
>
> Joel Fuller
>
> The MA
> Multi-media and Internet Solutions
>
> jfuller at the-ma.com <mailto:jfuller at the-ma.com>
>
> http://www.the-ma.com
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2006, at 3:51 PM, Phil Taylor wrote:
>
>>> 1. Since Joomla does not create static (physical) pages, how will
>>> this affect sending a newsletter using the standard (mosCE) editor
>>> and image insertion?
>> Newsletters in mosLM are not pages tat the site uses, you paste/create your HTML and Text versions of your newsletter either in Dreamweaver or using the built in WYSIWYG editor in mosLM and then hit the send. This gives you what you ask in terms of image insertion, apart from if you are usin gmosCE you have to change a configuraton option to show absolute urls for images (can be done in mosCE configuration component.
>>> 2. Does mosListMessenger use the same method of building pages as
>>> Joomla (images on server, data in database), or does it "build" a
>>> physical page and store it on the server for sending and later
>>> retrieval?
>> It saves the HTML/Text you add in the Compose message screen to the database so you can resend that mail again in the future, all images are stored as normal on the server.
>>> 3. Will all this work with some kind of SEF component so I can use a
>>> URL like http://mysite.com/newsletter/letter_01-01-06.html ?
>> Not sure why you would want a newsletter using SEF, but mosLM will send whatever HTML you like in the newsletter.
>>> 4. Can I create a newsletter from the front-end?
>> No. Try the demo at http://www.phil-taylor.ocm/Demo Phil.
>>
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>>
>> *Blue Flame IT Ltd.*
>> 9 Lambourne Close
>> The Deer Park
>> Ledbury
>> HR8 2HW
>> --
>> Office: 0800 358 5498
>> Mobile: 0800 358 5499
>> FAX: 0871 733 5514
>> --
>> Email: sales at phil-taylor.com
>> Web: www.phil-taylor.com
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Zachary Fuller wrote:
>>> That's great to hear Phil! I'll download your trial and check out
>>> the interface. One thing I'm not sure if you've had a request for is
>>> this:
>>>
>>> Obviously to create a really "fancy" letter, someone experienced
>>> enough to create a page in Dreamweaver or GoLive and upload the page
>>> and images could handle it, then send that url or page as the letter.
>>>
>>> Most of my clients, however, barely know what "Dream-receiver" is,
>>> and want to send email newsletters but require using the SAME editor
>>> they use in Joomla (after being trained) to create their letter!
>>> This way they learn ONE system, and can style (I can provide some
>>> custom CSS selectors for use in the editor) the letter as they wish
>>> as easily as they do in creating new content. So if your system lets
>>> me create newsletters with the standard editor and inside Joomla,
>>> that's great!
>>>
>>> Technically I have some practical concerns perhaps some of you all
>>> can add to. I often deal with folks that are either technically
>>> naive, or elderly and just want it to "work." I need a system that
>>> will perform reliably and "safely" (read: no work-arounds to muck
>>> through). They also deal with large lists (in the 1,000's).
>>>
>>> 1. Since Joomla does not create static (physical) pages, how will
>>> this affect sending a newsletter using the standard (mosCE) editor
>>> and image insertion?
>>> 2. Does mosListMessenger use the same method of building pages as
>>> Joomla (images on server, data in database), or does it "build" a
>>> physical page and store it on the server for sending and later
>>> retrieval?
>>> 3. Will all this work with some kind of SEF component so I can use a
>>> URL like http://mysite.com/newsletter/letter_01-01-06.html ?
>>> 4. Can I create a newsletter from the front-end?
>>>
>>> To put it simply, I want to be able to log-in, create a newsletter
>>> with the standard Joomla editor, CSS, and images in the /stories
>>> folder. Then send the resulting pages' URL as the newsletter (I
>>> would paste the plain-text in where appropriate).
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help. Great discussion on newsletters folks!
>>>
>>> Joel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 2, 2006, at 11:43 PM, Graham Spice wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Awesome - thanks for proving me wrong, Phil! I'll look into it as this
>>>> is something I've been looking for for a while now.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers-
>>>> Graham Spice
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Phil Taylor <nyphp at phil-taylor.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> That is not true :-) The patch to Joomla registration of adding new
>>>>> users to mosLM is available at http://www.phil-taylor.com/Trial
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil Taylor
>>>>> Developer of mosListMessenger!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Graham Spice wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no API available for PHPlist...yet. There has been
>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>> about the beginnings of an API and the SOAP protocol on the
>>>>>> developer
>>>>>> discussion list in the past few weeks. Things could open up there
>>>>>> quickly from what I can tell.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can read the emails between the developers here:
>>>>>> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.phplist.devel See the thread
>>>>>> called: Web Service Interface to PHPList
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other newsletter related forum posts
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,
>>>>>> 30369.msg193037.html#msg193037
>>>>>> * http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,12735.0.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 2, 2006, at 1:15 PM, Norman ONeil wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You could also try phplist if you want a challenge, the other pay
>>>>>>>> for one is put out by http://www.phil-taylor.com and is called
>>>>>>>> mos/
>>>>>>>> jos listmessenger. The latter one is integrated into joomla quite
>>>>>>>> nicely, but still missing bounce processing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I disagree with this last statement because mosListMessenger does
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> integrate with Joomla's user data! There used to be a hack available
>>>>>> to automatically sign someone up for the newsletter when they
>>>>>> registered but that is no longer available. Being able to use
>>>>>> Joomla's
>>>>>> user data is is critical to the integration, IMHO. Related forum
>>>>>> post:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,
>>>>>> 34399.msg192820.html#msg192820
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers-
>>>>>> Graham Spice
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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