[joomla] php MySQL
Gene Desepoli
drgenelmt at gmail.com
Mon Aug 2 16:02:27 EDT 2010
Hi
I am considering hiring someone to
develop an extensive online quiz program
with php/MySQL. I am not sure if it
would be a good idea to use Joomla as
the website for this application or if I
should leave it up to the developer to
create a new website.
Are there any considerations I shoudl be
aware of if using Joomla?
Thanks
Gene
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> 2. Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Gary Mort)
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> Amazing post, Thank You! I went to one day of the Drupal Camp NYC 2010 to
> learn and observe. In the days before the camp installed local version and
> created a test site. It had been a while since I had done that with Drupal.
> > From an integrators perspective it is mature and elegant in it's coding,
> documentation and user community a much higher percentage of the attendees
> where actual coders/developers than at a equivalent Joomla event. But
> compared to Joomla as far as getting up a basic site to do many things it
> was much more time consuming and involved and takes a much higher technical
> proficiency. It is reflected in the book shelf at say Barnes and Noble
> almost all Drupal books are for developers, almost all Joomla books are end
> designer and users manuals.
>
> Joomla's object oriented approach is much more advanced and abstract and
> has been much more and it has been set up to be more designer and user
> friendly thus there are more users less community. Drupal much more on basic
> level programmer friendly for a beginning to average programmer. Joomla as
> percentage has in number fewer coders and developers that participate in the
> community but the ones that do are very advanced. The Joomla community needs
> to work much harder at Joomla developer training of beginning and mid level
> programmers to flourish. Drupal needs to work much harder at getting a
> friendlier interface for designers and users probably by including more in
> their core to grow their end user community.
>
> Fred Sullivan
> @fredjet
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> From: Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net>
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> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:21:59 -0400
>> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> Subject: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
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> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:06:36 -0400
> From: Mitch Pirtle<mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
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> To be fair, the whole "not invented here" syndrome is prevalent in the
> web development world overall, and plagues a great many more projects
> than just Joomla.
>
> I still think that completely sucks though. :-)
>
> -- Mitch
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:25:46 -0400
> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
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> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>>
>>
>>
> I really want to clean it up a bit before posting it far and wide. :-)
>
> But I've been sitting on my thoughts for about a week and a half now after
> doing a bunch of custom coding to get Ubercart to work the way I wanted it
> to. One thing I found nice was that it was a HECK of a lot easier than
> Virtuemart to customize...and a LOT more nicely integrated than Magento[in
> fact, we are currently using Magento and it completely sucks]
>
> So I figured I'd let em out in case others had their own input on Drupal vs
> Joomla.... terminology is a real b......i....t......c.......you know what.
> Since both Drupal and Joomla have "modules" but they do completely
> different things. Plugins in Joomla are self-documenting to an extent,
> while hooks in drupal you need to lookup. The Joomla extensions directory,
> for all my complaints, really shines while Drupal's you have to know what
> your looking for more clearly.
>
> All in all.... I have a real appreciation for the power of Drupal....but I
> still prefer Joomla.
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> 1. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Fred Sullivan)
> 2. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Mark Simko)
> 3. Re: Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Mitch Pirtle)
> 4. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Gary Mort)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:17:04 -0400
> From: Fred Sullivan<fred at avdrive.com>
> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> 2. Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Gary Mort)
>
> Amazing post, Thank You! I went to one day of the Drupal Camp NYC 2010 to
> learn and observe. In the days before the camp installed local version and
> created a test site. It had been a while since I had done that with Drupal.
> > From an integrators perspective it is mature and elegant in it's coding,
> documentation and user community a much higher percentage of the attendees
> where actual coders/developers than at a equivalent Joomla event. But
> compared to Joomla as far as getting up a basic site to do many things it
> was much more time consuming and involved and takes a much higher technical
> proficiency. It is reflected in the book shelf at say Barnes and Noble
> almost all Drupal books are for developers, almost all Joomla books are end
> designer and users manuals.
>
> Joomla's object oriented approach is much more advanced and abstract and
> has been much more and it has been set up to be more designer and user
> friendly thus there are more users less community. Drupal much more on basic
> level programmer friendly for a beginning to average programmer. Joomla as
> percentage has in number fewer coders and developers that participate in the
> community but the ones that do are very advanced. The Joomla community needs
> to work much harder at Joomla developer training of beginning and mid level
> programmers to flourish. Drupal needs to work much harder at getting a
> friendlier interface for designers and users probably by including more in
> their core to grow their end user community.
>
> Fred Sullivan
> @fredjet
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> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:05:23 -0400
> From: Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net>
> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
> Message-ID:<1280513123.6594.21.camel at jersey>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>
> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>
>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:21:59 -0400
>> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> Subject: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
>> Message-ID:
>> <AANLkTindy3JBPnjBdiOsF1y15zFYATnmq3D+1fQi+aor at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:06:36 -0400
> From: Mitch Pirtle<mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
> Message-ID:
> <AANLkTikbLmKXaJUz_EN6g6Ej8=zkYOrcWiQ=yxjCjcdB at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> To be fair, the whole "not invented here" syndrome is prevalent in the
> web development world overall, and plagues a great many more projects
> than just Joomla.
>
> I still think that completely sucks though. :-)
>
> -- Mitch
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:25:46 -0400
> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
> Message-ID:
> <AANLkTikztFnSpWH2O_pOf=GPr_BPRV=UEyw7DjX6vdtV at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>>
>>
>>
> I really want to clean it up a bit before posting it far and wide. :-)
>
> But I've been sitting on my thoughts for about a week and a half now after
> doing a bunch of custom coding to get Ubercart to work the way I wanted it
> to. One thing I found nice was that it was a HECK of a lot easier than
> Virtuemart to customize...and a LOT more nicely integrated than Magento[in
> fact, we are currently using Magento and it completely sucks]
>
> So I figured I'd let em out in case others had their own input on Drupal vs
> Joomla.... terminology is a real b......i....t......c.......you know what.
> Since both Drupal and Joomla have "modules" but they do completely
> different things. Plugins in Joomla are self-documenting to an extent,
> while hooks in drupal you need to lookup. The Joomla extensions directory,
> for all my complaints, really shines while Drupal's you have to know what
> your looking for more clearly.
>
> All in all.... I have a real appreciation for the power of Drupal....but I
> still prefer Joomla.
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