NYCPHP Meetup

NYPHP.org

[joomla] php MySQL

Chris TheEnd chris at theendrecords.com
Mon Aug 2 17:12:41 EDT 2010


Joomla! could be a good place to start. 

However if you go the Joomla! route you could just extend  another polls project and offer it back to the community.  

One consideration is if you go that route, hire someone familiar with Joomla! not just php.


Chris
On Aug 2, 2010, at 4:02 PM, Gene Desepoli wrote:

> Hi
> I am considering hiring someone to
> develop an extensive online quiz program
> with php/MySQL.  I am not sure if it
> would be a good idea to use Joomla as
> the website for this application or if I
> should leave it up to the developer to
> create a new website.
> 
> Are there any considerations I shoudl be
> aware of if using Joomla?
> 
> Thanks
> Gene
> 
> On 7/31/10 12:00 PM,
> joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org wrote:
>> Send joomla mailing list submissions to
>>      joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>> 
>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>      http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>      joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org
>> 
>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>      joomla-owner at lists.nyphp.org
>> 
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of joomla digest..."
>> 
>> 
>> Today's Topics:
>> 
>>    1. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Fred Sullivan)
>>    2. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Mark Simko)
>>    3. Re: Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Mitch Pirtle)
>>    4. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Gary Mort)
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:17:04 -0400
>> From: Fred Sullivan<fred at avdrive.com>
>> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>> Message-ID:
>>      <AANLkTi=fpH+__6SHpF1ZEEHkNizs3ZmuTf-jhwWdxfDd at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> 2. Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Gary Mort)
>> 
>> Amazing post, Thank You! I went to one day of the Drupal Camp NYC 2010 to
>> learn and observe. In the days before the camp installed local version and
>> created a test site. It had been a while since I had done that with Drupal.
>>> From an integrators perspective it is mature and elegant in it's coding,
>> documentation and user community a much higher percentage of the attendees
>> where actual coders/developers than at a equivalent Joomla event. But
>> compared to Joomla as far as getting up a basic site to do many things it
>> was much more time consuming and involved and takes a much higher technical
>> proficiency. It is reflected in the book shelf at say Barnes and Noble
>> almost all Drupal books are for developers, almost all Joomla books are end
>> designer and users manuals.
>> 
>> Joomla's object oriented approach is much more advanced and abstract and
>> has  been much more and it has been set up to be more designer and user
>> friendly thus there are more users less community. Drupal much more on basic
>> level programmer friendly for a beginning to average programmer. Joomla as
>> percentage has in number fewer coders and developers that participate in the
>> community but the ones that do are very advanced. The Joomla community needs
>> to work much harder at Joomla developer training of beginning and mid level
>> programmers to flourish. Drupal needs to work much harder at getting a
>> friendlier interface for designers and users probably by including more in
>> their core to grow their end user community.
>> 
>> Fred Sullivan
>> @fredjet
>> -------------- next part --------------
>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
>> URL:<http://lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/joomla/attachments/20100730/3f536e2d/attachment-0001.html>
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:05:23 -0400
>> From: Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net>
>> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>> Message-ID:<1280513123.6594.21.camel at jersey>
>> Content-Type: text/plain
>> 
>> 
>> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>> 
>> 
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:21:59 -0400
>>> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>>> Subject: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
>>> Message-ID:
>>>     <AANLkTindy3JBPnjBdiOsF1y15zFYATnmq3D+1fQi+aor at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:06:36 -0400
>> From: Mitch Pirtle<mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
>> Message-ID:
>>      <AANLkTikbLmKXaJUz_EN6g6Ej8=zkYOrcWiQ=yxjCjcdB at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>> 
>> To be fair, the whole "not invented here" syndrome is prevalent in the
>> web development world overall, and plagues a great many more projects
>> than just Joomla.
>> 
>> I still think that completely sucks though. :-)
>> 
>> -- Mitch
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:25:46 -0400
>> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>> Message-ID:
>>      <AANLkTikztFnSpWH2O_pOf=GPr_BPRV=UEyw7DjX6vdtV at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> I really want to clean it up a bit before posting it far and wide. :-)
>> 
>> But I've been sitting on my thoughts for about a week and a half now after
>> doing a bunch of custom coding to get Ubercart to work the way I wanted it
>> to.  One thing I found nice was that it was a HECK of a lot easier than
>> Virtuemart to customize...and a LOT more nicely integrated than Magento[in
>> fact, we are currently using Magento and it completely sucks]
>> 
>> So I figured I'd let em out in case others had their own input on Drupal vs
>> Joomla....  terminology is a real b......i....t......c.......you know what.
>>  Since both Drupal and Joomla have "modules" but they do completely
>> different things.  Plugins in Joomla are self-documenting to an extent,
>> while hooks in drupal you need to lookup.  The Joomla extensions directory,
>> for all my complaints, really shines while Drupal's you have to know what
>> your looking for more clearly.
>> 
>> All in all.... I have a real appreciation for the power of Drupal....but I
>> still prefer Joomla.
>> -------------- next part --------------
>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
>> URL:<http://lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/joomla/attachments/20100730/0a072956/attachment-0001.html>
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> joomla mailing list
>> joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>> 
>> End of joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 18
>> **************************************
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> On 7/31/10 12:00 PM,
> joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org wrote:
>> Send joomla mailing list submissions to
>>      joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>> 
>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>      http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>      joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org
>> 
>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>      joomla-owner at lists.nyphp.org
>> 
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of joomla digest..."
>> 
>> 
>> Today's Topics:
>> 
>>    1. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Fred Sullivan)
>>    2. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Mark Simko)
>>    3. Re: Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Mitch Pirtle)
>>    4. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Gary Mort)
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:17:04 -0400
>> From: Fred Sullivan<fred at avdrive.com>
>> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>> Message-ID:
>>      <AANLkTi=fpH+__6SHpF1ZEEHkNizs3ZmuTf-jhwWdxfDd at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> 2. Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Gary Mort)
>> 
>> Amazing post, Thank You! I went to one day of the Drupal Camp NYC 2010 to
>> learn and observe. In the days before the camp installed local version and
>> created a test site. It had been a while since I had done that with Drupal.
>>> From an integrators perspective it is mature and elegant in it's coding,
>> documentation and user community a much higher percentage of the attendees
>> where actual coders/developers than at a equivalent Joomla event. But
>> compared to Joomla as far as getting up a basic site to do many things it
>> was much more time consuming and involved and takes a much higher technical
>> proficiency. It is reflected in the book shelf at say Barnes and Noble
>> almost all Drupal books are for developers, almost all Joomla books are end
>> designer and users manuals.
>> 
>> Joomla's object oriented approach is much more advanced and abstract and
>> has  been much more and it has been set up to be more designer and user
>> friendly thus there are more users less community. Drupal much more on basic
>> level programmer friendly for a beginning to average programmer. Joomla as
>> percentage has in number fewer coders and developers that participate in the
>> community but the ones that do are very advanced. The Joomla community needs
>> to work much harder at Joomla developer training of beginning and mid level
>> programmers to flourish. Drupal needs to work much harder at getting a
>> friendlier interface for designers and users probably by including more in
>> their core to grow their end user community.
>> 
>> Fred Sullivan
>> @fredjet
>> -------------- next part --------------
>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
>> URL:<http://lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/joomla/attachments/20100730/3f536e2d/attachment-0001.html>
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:05:23 -0400
>> From: Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net>
>> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>> Message-ID:<1280513123.6594.21.camel at jersey>
>> Content-Type: text/plain
>> 
>> 
>> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>> 
>> 
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:21:59 -0400
>>> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>>> Subject: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
>>> Message-ID:
>>>     <AANLkTindy3JBPnjBdiOsF1y15zFYATnmq3D+1fQi+aor at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:06:36 -0400
>> From: Mitch Pirtle<mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
>> Message-ID:
>>      <AANLkTikbLmKXaJUz_EN6g6Ej8=zkYOrcWiQ=yxjCjcdB at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>> 
>> To be fair, the whole "not invented here" syndrome is prevalent in the
>> web development world overall, and plagues a great many more projects
>> than just Joomla.
>> 
>> I still think that completely sucks though. :-)
>> 
>> -- Mitch
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:25:46 -0400
>> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>> Message-ID:
>>      <AANLkTikztFnSpWH2O_pOf=GPr_BPRV=UEyw7DjX6vdtV at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> I really want to clean it up a bit before posting it far and wide. :-)
>> 
>> But I've been sitting on my thoughts for about a week and a half now after
>> doing a bunch of custom coding to get Ubercart to work the way I wanted it
>> to.  One thing I found nice was that it was a HECK of a lot easier than
>> Virtuemart to customize...and a LOT more nicely integrated than Magento[in
>> fact, we are currently using Magento and it completely sucks]
>> 
>> So I figured I'd let em out in case others had their own input on Drupal vs
>> Joomla....  terminology is a real b......i....t......c.......you know what.
>>  Since both Drupal and Joomla have "modules" but they do completely
>> different things.  Plugins in Joomla are self-documenting to an extent,
>> while hooks in drupal you need to lookup.  The Joomla extensions directory,
>> for all my complaints, really shines while Drupal's you have to know what
>> your looking for more clearly.
>> 
>> All in all.... I have a real appreciation for the power of Drupal....but I
>> still prefer Joomla.
>> -------------- next part --------------
>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
>> URL:<http://lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/joomla/attachments/20100730/0a072956/attachment-0001.html>
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> joomla mailing list
>> joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>> 
>> End of joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 18
>> **************************************
>> 
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
> 
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> 
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php




More information about the Joomla mailing list