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[joomla] K2, what where they thinking?

Arzie Hardin arzieh at gmail.com
Sun Jan 24 16:18:49 EST 2010


Though I am not as familiar with the plumbing details, I have to say I am a
bit torn over K2 and most all of the other new "CCK" (content creation kit)
solutions, as well as some of the old directory solutions now "re-branded"
as CCK.

The biggest missed opportunity to me with with having the ability to create
new content types is the seemingly obvious capability to also define new
organizational models, specifically multi-categorization which all of the
new solutions miss. Both, having more than two levels (e.g. section and
category in joomla core) for each content type, as well as the ability to
have one piece of content appear in more than a single category. This is
already possible with the major directory extentions (Sobi2, Moset tree) for
listings, but it is dead on arrival in all of the CCK solutions except for
one, which happens to be the only ioncube ecrypted and of course commercial
solution (Mighty Extensions Resources). ME Resources is actually really good
for exactly this, but you are stuck with there environment for most every
thing else (community, media, listings, comments, etc.). I have heard that
sobi2 could be tuned to publish articles, but just as ME Resources, if you
go that route you are restricted from using the wealth of com_content based
modules and plugins looking for joomla core sections and categories.

I have heard different things about what to expect in J1.6, some of which
says it will natively handle multi-mapping (improve on the current one
content, one category model) and support category nesting (sub-categories),
but I have a feeling it may just be the later.

If anyone knows of any other solution/hacks for multi-categorization of
joomla com_content articles (Jseblod cck is close, but no multi-mapping),
please point me to it.

Thanks.



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> From: Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com>
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> Doing things differently for the sake of different is silly.
>
> They have some really nice clean code there.
>
> Then they do weird things like use an MVC framework for 80% of the code,
> and
> then one vital function which if they had used MVC could be easily adjusted
> with a template override, they stick the html output in the controller.....
>
> Their field definitions are very basic...no harm there, but WHY do their
> own
> coding?  Joomla already has a built in set of field definitions that are
> much richer, why code your own when you have it sitting right there to use?
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> Oh well....  I feel like by this time in a week and half I'll have the K2
> system I want.....    but then what to do with all those hacks?
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