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From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Bill Crews
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:07 PM
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla
Subject: Re: [joomla] Workflow question

... and told us about it.  Thanks!

-bc

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Matt Thomas <matt at betweenbrain.com> wrote:

Janet,

That's great to hear. I'm in the same boat as you; reading the manual is not the first thought that occurs to me either (with the exception of anything by Nicholas at Akeeba as his documentation is phenomenal). 

The reason I mention it is that preserving modifications to a file, like adding a style sheet to your template's index.php, is not something that Joomla handles well between upgrades. Typically, any modifications, to files that you install, get lost. We each seem to address in our own particular way, so each framework might have a special feature for this.

In any case, I'm glad that you worked it out.

Best,

Matt Thomas

Founder betweenbrain <http://betweenbrain.com/> ™

Lead Developer Construct Template Development Framework <http://construct-framework.com/> 

Phone: 203.632.9322
Twitter: @betweenbrain

Github: https://github.com/betweenbrain

On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Janet Sullivan <jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Matt:

I'm sitting here laughing because "reading the manual" is something that seldom occurs to me, 

yet is so often the solution.  As in this case, when I read the manual I find that Yoothemes offers 

a premium version of the same theme.

The difference between the free and premium is that the premium version has another style sheet file

called "extra-styles" where you can add customizations, just as I want to do.  So simple.  I'm still mildly

curious as to whether or not modifying the tk_redemption_free/layouts/template.config would have worked.

I think I will try it after I get the real client site going.....

And thanks!

 I'm writing it 100 times:  Read the manual, read the manual, read the manual.....

Janet Sullivan

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From: Matt Thomas <matt at betweenbrain.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org> 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 11:25 AM

Subject: Re: [joomla] Workflow question

You can also look at https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms#L38 to see how the core templates add stylesheets.  

Have you checked with the folks at Yootheme? They may have a preferred method that might also persevere this change between upgrades.

Best,

Matt

Sent from my phone that uses an open source operating system. 

On May 19, 2012 7:07 AM, "Scott Wolpow" <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:

The one for your template

ie

path-to-site- /template/index.php

the css is

path-to-site- /template/css

Make sure it calls your custom css last.
Look at the index.php file, you will see the other css's listed there.
SW

On 5/19/2012 7:04 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote: 

Thanks Scott.  I'm not very good with php yet.
which index.php file? I think I've seen several....
  and where to add it so that my css is guaranteed to override the standard template?

Janet Sullivan

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From: Scott Wolpow  <mailto:scott at wolpow.com> <scott at wolpow.com>
To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: [joomla] Workflow question

Your best bet is to add a custom.css file to the template.
Then add it in the index.php
This will solve your issues, but you may have to add the line again in the index.php

Scott Wolpow

On 5/19/2012 6:29 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote: 

I am building a joomla site using  Yootheme, based on the Warp framework.

 I can't limit my changes to only what the framework/ theme has built in so use firebug to 

 to identify  the css changes necessary.

My problem is that I don't know where I should be putting the new CSS code.  I know how to change the various
css files because firebug tells me the filename and the line number for each element that I want to change. I could
easily go into each file and make the changes.  
However, is that how I should be working?  For example, I am using a free version of the TK Redemption theme.  Suppose later in the
project I need the premium features of that theme and need to upgrade?  If I have made a bunch of random changes to the css, I think
I may have to start all over with the premium theme.  I think there should be a way to isolate my CSS is a separate place to make upgrading
easy.

What is the proper procedure  so I don't make a mess?
Thanks in advance.  And by the way, this forum (and the NYC Users Group) is GREAT.  Thanks to everyone who has helped this novice
jump start with Joomla!

Janet Sullivan