[nycphp-talk] [Fwd: Invitation to participate in Apache J2EE efforts]

Jon Baer jonbaer at
Tue Aug 5 19:33:55 EDT 2003

this is probably one of the bigger reasons for my switch to php, the fact
that there is no rather expensive certification procedure for any apps u do
build, much of the dictation on items u wanted to build into an enterprise
app had to wait for finalization from sun (a rather long time for some apis)
and then go through the j2ee process.

id really wonder how all the other companies which did have to license j2ee
to the max feel about this ... (

not to mention the fact that php folks would not have to send a nice letter

i still think java is a solid well rounded robust language, but im not sure
i agree w/ the j2ee process.

- jon

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hans Zaunere" <hans at>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:08 PM
Subject: [nycphp-talk] [Fwd: Invitation to participate in Apache J2EE

> I know this is a PHP list, but hey; it's Apache!
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Invitation to participate in Apache J2EE efforts
> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 08:58:25 -0700
> From: Greg Stein <gstein at>
> As you may have heard by now, the Apache Software Foundation has initiated
> project to develop an open source, Apache-licensed implementation of the
> J2EE specification. In addition, the project is committed to certifying
> implementation as J2EE compliant. This is an ambitious goal and will
> a formidable challenge for the people involved, given the wide range of
> technologies covered by the specification.
> The project (tentatively named "Apache Geronimo") builds upon the many
> projects at the Apache Software Foundation. In addition, the project is
> bringing together leading members of the Castor, JBoss, MX4J and OpenEJB
> communities. We would like to extend an open invitation to everyone
> in the J2EE space, both commercial entities and talented individuals, to
> join the community and build a world-class J2EE implementation.
> The Apache Software Foundation is in a unique position to build a J2EE
> compliant platform. Our non-profit, charity status, and our relationship
> with Sun Microsystems, provides the Foundation with access to the J2EE
> making it possible to achieve certification. In addition, our flexible and
> unrestrictive licensing makes it possible for a wide variety of
> to assist in the development of Apache Geronimo, and to build their own
> solutions upon the platform.
> Apache Geronimo has been launched within the Apache Incubator. You can
> more information about the Incubator at To
> find out more about this project or if you would like to become involved,
> please send email to the incubator mailing list:
general at
>     On behalf of the Apache Geronimo Team,
>     Greg Stein,
>     Chairman of the Apache Software Foundation
> -- 
> gstein at ... ASF Chairman ...
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