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[Mitch Pirtle]

Jayesh Sheth wrote:

> I have come to the realization that in this city - and perhaps 
> anywhere else in the world - it's every man for himself. If I were to 
> be run over by a truck, people would probably step over me.


And if they tripped, they would sue you.  (rimshot)

Most folks in IT haven't been around long enough to remember what it was 
like back in the 'old days', when working in IT meant hideously low pay 
and occasional ridicule from other staffers from other departments.

In the 80s tech started to get sexy.  In the 90s it just got waaaaaay 
outta hand.  Now in the 2000s we are seeing a normalization where we 
sink back to how it was before, although probably still better than how 
it was in the 70s.

One big thing that is causing this is the 'our stuff is so easy to use, 
anyone can do it' sales pitch.  Expectations of non-techies are slowly 
reorienting from 'geez, computers are hard, we need a geek' to 'this is 
supposed to be easy, why would I need a specialist?'

Then there's the whole 'bigger, better, faster, cheaper' phenomenon most 
associated with technological development.  "Why not people too?", is 
the common thought.

Is outsourcing really such a big deal, when all of these other factors 
are making such a huge impact on the IT employment landscape?

I helped start a website that gets over 10 million visitors a day - but 
I cannot work for them anymore because I am a father now and my most 
important priority is my wife and kids.  I can, but won't, work from 8AM 
to 8PM six days a week anymore.  And I'm not living paycheck to paycheck 
anymore, so I can be choosier about my environment.

So sure there is an age bias of sorts, but it is not because of age, but 
because of priorities and values.

We are in an industry that - in the whole scheme of things - is only a 
few minutes old.  There's plenty of unsettled aspects of the industry 
that will take years to stabilize and become more defined.

I think that the outsourcing topic is way overblown, and that there are 
much more significant events taking place that will have infinitely more 
long-term effects on our careers.

-- Mitch, wondering if he is making sense or just starting something 
that shouldn't be started

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> I'm looking to install something like Webmin (webmin.com) on=20
> our PHP box here so jr level coders can manage cron jobs. =20
> Does anyone know if something like Webmin exists in PHP? =20
> (I'd install Webmin, but for some god-awful reason we don't=20
> have PERL on this box and my hands are kinda tied in terms of=20
> getting it installed)

I don't know of anything offhand, but some of the commercial control
panels written in PHP can take care of this... however that's probably
overkill.

I use PHP cron scripts extensively, but never had a need for a
management utility.  It'd be simple enough to write, but that said, it's
good for someone to learn the crontab syntax :)

H

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Subject: RE: [nycphp-talk] Using FreeTDS to connect via PHP to MSSQL
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org=20
> [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Rafi Sheikh
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 10:37 AM
> To: 'talk at lists.nyphp.org'
> Subject: [nycphp-talk] Using FreeTDS to connect via PHP to MSSQL
>=20
> Has any one tried to compile FreeTDS for use with PHP (4.3.4=20
> in our case on AIX 5.1) to connect with MSSQL?  If yes, would=20
> you be so kind as to give us some guidance, our compiles are=20
> failing miserably=20
>=20
> I am listing the error below:
>=20
> -----------ERROR LISTING----------------- gcc -g -O2 -o=20
> .libs/tsql tsql.o  -lcurses -L../tds/.libs -ltds -liconv -lc=20
> -Wl,-blibpath:/usr/local/lib:/usr/bin/../lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-i
> bm-aix5.1.0.0/
> 2.9-aix51-020209:/usr/bin/../lib/gcc-lib:/opt/freeware/GNUPro/
> lib/gcc-lib/po
> werpc-ibm-aix5.1.0.0/2.9-aix51-020209:/usr/bin/../lib/gcc-lib/
> powerpc-ibm-ai
> x5.1.0.0/2.9-aix51-020209/../../..:/opt/freeware/GNUPro/lib/gc
> c-lib/powerpc-
> ibm-aix5.1.0.0/2.9-aix51-020209/../../..:/usr/lib:/lib
> ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .tds_submit_query
> ld: 0711-317 ERROR: Undefined symbol: .tds_get_null

Is this when compiling FreeTDS itself, or PHP linked with FreeTDS?

Seems like a linker problem.  I haven't touched AIX in this lifetime,
but check that your ld.so.conf, ldconfig, etc. knows where to find
everything.

H