[nycphp-talk] php for mailing list app?

David Mintz dmintz at
Mon Jun 26 17:16:38 EDT 2006

Keeping the user apprised of progress in the back end... Sounds like a
candidate for AJAXification, doesn't it? You could have some Javascript
send an XmlHttpRequest to a back end that reports progress, and update DIV
element with progress information. No? (I'm tentative b/c I'm an AJAX
newbie at best).

More generally, a few months ago I tried writing something similar to what
Robin is attempting and discovered that (at least for me, under my set of
constraints) it was a lot harder than it should have been. The shared host
(pair Networks) doesn't want people mass-emailing with their system, CLI
or otherwise. So I tried running it from my very own box instead, but
because I am clueless and do not have a properly configured mail server,
things were going out with malformed headers and being identified as spam
by a lot of systems on the receiving end, and I got my IP blacklisted by
SpamHaus et al.

The PEAR Mail_Queue class is nice but there's something peculiar to me
about saving the very same message text n times, once for each recipient.

On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, robyn overstreet wrote:

> On 6/26/06, Donald J Organ IV <dorgan at> wrote:
> > Well create a cron job that runs every x amount of minutes that looks
> > for messages that have say the Send field set to 1 in the database.
> Great! That makes sense.
> Still wondering how to let the user know the status of the process
> from the browser. Obviously, the browser PHP could check the database
> repeatedly to see if the send field is set to 0, but that might create
> a long wait also. Additionally, is it reasonable to query the database
> in a cron job every minute? Every 5 minutes? The client will probably
> only use the app weekly or monthly, but of course it needs to be ready
> at any time.

David Mintz

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