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Hans Zaunere lists-at-zaunere.com |nyphp dev/internal group use| wrote:

>Jon Baer wrote on Sunday, August 05, 2007 9:19 PM:
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>>I have to say that after spending a long time w/ Dynamo / Tomcat /
>>Struts and mod_rewrite that eventually I got down to learning the
>>routing mechanism of frameworks (MVC) and find it to be extremely
>>flexible and very well thought out + could easily replicate a servlet
>>URI request setup.    
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>>http://manual.cakephp.org/chapter/configuration
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>http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/zend.controller.router.html#zend.control
>ler.router.usage
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>I think there is a distinction to make here, however.
>
>There are two parts to the URL
>routing/handling/SEO-friendly-URL-of-the-month/etc game:
>
>1: getting the web server to relax it's by-default strict mapping of the URL
>space to the filesystem, and then passing whatever the request was down to
>the processing language
>
>2: programming mechanisms in the processing language to intelligently deal
>with whatever URL it gets from the web server
>
>In PHP at least, these are two different things.  At some point there was
>interest in apache_hooks, but it unfortunately never matured.
>
>In other technologies, #1 equates more to the processing language reaching
>up and grabbing what it needs from the server, and then taking over.  In
>PHP, however, it's certainly a "top-down" approach.
>
>For #1, most frameworks, and the two mentioned above, prefer the use
>mod_rewrite.  Then they each have their own mechanism to handle #2, with
>some arguably being worse than others.
>
>There's also fundamental differences in the way #1 can be handled.
>Rewriting is a very different thing than aliasing a handler or set of URLs
>to a single URL or processor.
>
>The later is more elegant - and more flexible - avoiding mucking with obtuse
>rewrite conditions and rules that require a testing cycle and often depend
>on a fixed set of extensions to ignore.
>
>---
>Hans Zaunere / President / New York PHP
>    www.nyphp.org  /  www.nyphp.com
>
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I follow you, Hans, but then what about URLs as resource locators? Your 
elegant "aliasing a handler or set of URLs to a single URL or processor" 
means URLs don't equate to (unique) information resources. Doesn't that 
"break" the web?

-=john andrews

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