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[nycphp-talk] unbelievable

Kenneth Downs ken at secdat.com
Wed Jan 31 07:09:14 EST 2007


Timothy Boyden wrote:
> Yeah this is exactly what I was talking about a couple months back when
> there was a discussion on the going rate for PHP programmers.
>
> I mean obviously they're not looking for an experienced PHP programmer
> (at least they shouldn't be at that rate, especially in New York City)
> they're just looking for a marketing intern that has some PHP and web
> design experience, but I'm finding it to be extremely hard to do PHP
> consulting work because there is people that will actually do it at that
> kind of hourly rate and potential employers hear this and refuse to pay
> more to the point that it is insulting to hear their low-ball number. At
> $7 - $10 an hour, what's the incentive to work hard at learning and
> staying up to date on programming languages or other IT skills?
>   

It comes back to the fact that you are much better off selling results 
than skills.

> It's part of the reason why I won't do just programming and do mostly
> hardware IT consulting.
>
> -Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
> On Behalf Of Joseph Crawford
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:58 PM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] unbelievable
>
> Wow that is just amazing pretty funny that they would request that lol
> --
> Joseph Crawford Jr.
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