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[nycphp-talk] unbelievable

Josh McCormack joshmccormack at travelersdiary.com
Tue Jan 30 21:11:17 EST 2007


I think there's quite a bit of variety in the work you could expect from a
PHP programmer. While I think $10/hour is really, really low, there are some
positions that are just heads down, follow the instructions, who cares what
the code looks like type. For these, I don't think pay in the $35k-55 is
completey unreasonable. Once you move into more complex code, making readale
code that's efficient and according to accepted design patterns, connecting
to APIs and what not, or you bring more thought into how the code should be
written or how the program should work, then I think you should definitely
be getting more.

I have seen ads for PHP programming jobs that are a smidge over $100k, but
that seems like the glass ceiling for being a PHP progammer working for
someone else.

Josh


On 1/30/07, Timothy Boyden <tboyden at supercoups.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah this is exactly what I was talking about a couple months back when
> there was a discussion on the going rate for PHP programmers.
>
> I mean obviously they're not looking for an experienced PHP programmer
> (at least they shouldn't be at that rate, especially in New York City)
> they're just looking for a marketing intern that has some PHP and web
> design experience, but I'm finding it to be extremely hard to do PHP
> consulting work because there is people that will actually do it at that
> kind of hourly rate and potential employers hear this and refuse to pay
> more to the point that it is insulting to hear their low-ball number. At
> $7 - $10 an hour, what's the incentive to work hard at learning and
> staying up to date on programming languages or other IT skills?
>
> It's part of the reason why I won't do just programming and do mostly
> hardware IT consulting.
>
> -Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
> On Behalf Of Joseph Crawford
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> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] unbelievable
>
> Wow that is just amazing pretty funny that they would request that lol
> --
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