[nycphp-talk] PHP hosting and standard tool-chain for newbie?

Michael B Allen ioplex at
Thu Apr 23 13:35:38 EDT 2009

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Chris Snyder <chsnyder at> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Hans Zaunere <lists at> wrote:
>>> > She uses a Macbook.
>>> Why not iWeb?
>> I've been helping my mother's friend, who uses iWeb... it's total junk.  You
>> can even upload files to the right directory on the server (it always tries
>> to create a sub-directory, apparently).
> It also falls down when you want to move away from the built-in templates.
> But come on, Dreamweaver is junky, too. If you want point-and-click
> page creation, you're stuck with what any of us would consider a toy.

Actually I when I said "point and click" I did not mean to imply that
the actual code would be generated by point and click. I just meant
the save, upload and view cycle would ideally be a mostly point and
click experience as opposed to running things on the command line like

Again, since I use vim and ssh I'm not familiar with the standard
"Free" tool-chain so I'm trying to figure that out. What I'm thinking
should exist is something like the following:

1. An editor to write .php, .html, .css, .js files. I have no idea
what people use for an editor on Mac. What's the Mac equivalent of
Notepad? Is Eclipse good for this?

2. A way to upload / sync files. It would be great if this was built
into the editor so that she could just make some changes, hit "Upload"
and it would automatically sync the server with whatever files she
modified locally. If such a thing does not exist I suppose an sftp
with UI style program would do. I know there's something like that for
Windows but what is the Mac equivalent?

3. Debugging tools. Firebug, Burp proxy, ...?


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