[nycphp-talk] PHP hosting and standard tool-chain for newbie?

Joseph Crawford codebowl at
Thu Apr 23 13:44:24 EDT 2009

Coda is nice, also is easy to publish the sites with.  It does however  
require knowledge of hand coding sites, it's not a what you see is  
what you get.

Nice CSS editor also :)

On Apr 23, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Michael B Allen wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Chris Snyder <chsnyder at>  
> wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Hans Zaunere <lists at>  
>> wrote:
>>>>> She uses a Macbook.
>>>> Why not iWeb?
>>> I've been helping my mother's friend, who uses iWeb... it's total  
>>> junk.  You
>>> can even upload files to the right directory on the server (it  
>>> always tries
>>> to create a sub-directory, apparently).
>> It also falls down when you want to move away from the built-in  
>> templates.
>> But come on, Dreamweaver is junky, too. If you want point-and-click
>> page creation, you're stuck with what any of us would consider a toy.
> Actually I when I said "point and click" I did not mean to imply that
> the actual code would be generated by point and click. I just meant
> the save, upload and view cycle would ideally be a mostly point and
> click experience as opposed to running things on the command line like
> scp.
> Again, since I use vim and ssh I'm not familiar with the standard
> "Free" tool-chain so I'm trying to figure that out. What I'm thinking
> should exist is something like the following:
> 1. An editor to write .php, .html, .css, .js files. I have no idea
> what people use for an editor on Mac. What's the Mac equivalent of
> Notepad? Is Eclipse good for this?
> 2. A way to upload / sync files. It would be great if this was built
> into the editor so that she could just make some changes, hit "Upload"
> and it would automatically sync the server with whatever files she
> modified locally. If such a thing does not exist I suppose an sftp
> with UI style program would do. I know there's something like that for
> Windows but what is the Mac equivalent?
> 3. Debugging tools. Firebug, Burp proxy, ...?
> Mike
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