[nycphp-talk] Java provides???
Paul A Houle
paul at devonianfarm.com
Wed Aug 12 16:55:11 EDT 2009
Elijah Insua wrote:
> I'm pretty sure you are talking about using eclipse as a text editor?
> There are a couple plugins that make eclipse intelligent about your
> php project.
> PHPEclipse does do code hinting, I believe PDT does as well. Not to
> mention netbeans with its PHP Plugin, or how about Zend Studio /
> Komodo / VS.PHP. They all have code hinting/"intellisense"
Code hinting doesn't count for that much. I type fast, I know the
built-in PHP methods like the back of my hand, and these things can't
understand the classes and functions that I write well enough to be
useful for artifacts that aren't part of the language.
To be fair I make matters worse by depending on heavily on
autoloading as well as computed file, method, function and class
names. A useful PHP IDE for me would need to not only understand plain
PHP, but also be programmable w/ rules to describe the naming
conventions used in my framework.
There's a world of difference between the gimmicks in the PHP
editors I've seen and what Eclipse/Java does,
> there are two debugging "systems" you can use with php. XDebug and
> DBG, PHPEclipse and Netbeans/PHP both have support for this.
I know. I've never gotten either of those to work effectively.
There's always been some problem, like the plug-in wouldn't build on
the target machine or it would built but cause Apache to crash, or
there was a firewall in the way. If I was getting paid to screw around
with debuggers and write patches and all that I might be able to make it
work, but I've found that Java debugging and C# debugging just work...
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