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[Justin Dearing]

The question is does PHP need that non-profit when anarchy has served it
well? Who would serve in the organization? The key contributors? Its to late
for anyone to own the copyright to PHP and make all contributors sign
copyright over to them. What exactly would this body do?

As far as advocating PHP in the enterprise, I think Zend, IBM and Jetbrains
do fantastic jobs of that. Why do we need a non-profit to cater to
for-profits?

Justin

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Federico Ulfo <rainelemental at gmail.com>wrote:

> PHP is a totally anarchical language, where classes, functions, and
> different coding style are mixed together, so we have subStr and file_size.
> PHP has a weak presentation layer, so there are tons of approach and
> template engines to manage presentation. Also terms as MVC are used
> differently by their real meaning (http://devzone.zend.com/article/12997<http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdevzone%2Ezend%2Ecom%2Farticle%2F12997&urlhash=OY3b&_t=tracking_disc>
> ).
>
> PHP is mature enough to have some organization as the W3G for HTML, that
> should give some specification to follow like HTML4.1 , HTML 5. I wish PHP 6
> could re-write all the functions and class with a single style, and a common
> design pattern, a better presentation layer.
>
> But who's going to take this responsability?  As you well said, Anthony,
> Zend is a profit company we need some open source organization. I'm not the
> best person to do it, but I've some good idea to start something, why we
> don't talk about it somewhere with a good beer?
>
> -- Federico
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Anthony Papillion <papillion at gmail.com>wrote:
>
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>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> So I've been learning a bit of Python and I already know Perl. One of
>> the strongest non-language related aspects of both languages is that
>> they both have a strong and active foundation behind them working
>> towards furthering adoption and acceptance of the languages within the
>> enterprise and other sectors.
>>
>> PHP has Zend.
>>
>> While I understand that Zend does an amazing job developing PHP and
>> solutions around the language, I'm wondering why there is no
>> non-profit foundation working to further the goals of the language in
>> non-commercial ways. Personally, I think being backed by a non-profit
>> interest could really benefit PHP and I'm wondering what everyone
>> else's thoughts on the topic are.
>>
>> Thoughts? Flames?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Anthony
>>
>> - --
>> Anthony Papillion
>> Software Developer and IT Consultant
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