NYCPHP Meetup

[William Bly]

Dear All,

These days there seem to be more challenges with the new CMS and I have not
yet found my comfort zone. It seems the Problem to solution ratio is leaning
heavily to the problem side.

Just finished a course attending not teaching where we used 1.6. I found a
number of things troubling. Many of the extensions I regularly use with 1.5
not available. As a result I had to learn a new editor which was a plus but
to add a map and a video needed to create an HTML module but to embed the
code needed to turn off the editor. OK not too difficult but time consuming
to track down and implement. I would imagine a big turn off to a new user.

During the class we migrated from 1.6 to 1.7 where a number of things broke
although the migration was swift it looks like I will need to go back to the
template clubs forums for more fixes.

Joomla is not alone. At work they chose to use Drupal to build a site for
one of the units I work with. They started with 7 early this year then moved
back to 6 as 7 was giving way too many problems. I believe the plan is too
migrate to 7 again later.

Now a third site we built with Joomla was converted to a custom CMS with PHP
this site is sailing along without any of the issues we are facing with the
Open Source CMS however you would need some good php skills to work on the
custom CMS aside from uploading to the preset templates.

An original attraction to CMS for me was less coding and an interface that
non technical users could easily work with via the wysywig. Today signs all
point to time to get up to speed with programming skills to develop and
trouble shoot or build your own?

regards - Bill Bly


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> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 07:38:53 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: Re: [joomla] WP V Joomla
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> I stand corrected regarding the pay.
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> From: OSTraining <info at ostraining.com>
> To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 10:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [joomla] WP V Joomla
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> Donna
>
> Please, do a bit of research before slinging mud:
>
> The core team hasn't been paid in almost a year now. They are all
> volunteers.
>
> At WordPress, they are almost all paid and paid one by one person. They run
> an Apple model, where according to a WP core developer I talked to last
> month, they have three dictators to make all final decisions. The good thing
> about that for community members is that they largely don't have to worry
> about the core code at all.
>
> Joomla (and increasingly Drupal) run more of the Android model where things
> are more fragmented and if you do want to see improvements, you have to get
> involved and push. There's no free ride from a big company that makes all
> the decisions for us.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:
>
> One reason for WP rise is with people with zero budget.
> >It is very easy to use, but also very limited in scope and
>    abilities.
> >Joomla is beginning to become a frustration.
> >But if you have complaints, then go and fix them.
> >Scott Wolpow
> >
> >
> >On 8/6/2011 10:30 PM, Stephen Britton wrote:
> >Hi Gang,
> >>
> >>
> >>Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend.?
> >>
> >>
> >>I want to remind everyone that at 6:30 PM on Thursday, August 11th, the
> monthly Joomla NYC User Group meeting will take place at our new meeting
> room at Lincoln Center, 146 West 65th Street. (For detailed directions,
> visit www.joomlanyc.org )
> >>
> >>
> >>Scott Wolpow will discuss wire frames and the best methods to layout
> websites before you start building. I will present two Joomla templates -
> Construct and LessJoomla - that work with every screen from smart phones to
> jumbo television LCDs.
> >>?
> >>I also have copies of Stephen Burge's new book, Joomla <explained> and
> Barry North's Joomla 1.6: A User's Guide.
> >>
> >>
> >>We also need to remind everyone that Joomla Day Weekend is coming up soon
> - October 22 and 23. To take advantage of the $15 per ticket discount, you
> must register before Sept. 1. So if you haven't registered yet, think about
> doing it soon. For information and registration, visit
> www.joomladaynyc.com?
> >>
> >>
> >>And if you have registered, you should visit the website because there is
> recently updated information about the tracks and speakers.
> >>
> >>
> >>On other Joomla matters, I recently stumbled across an article, "How
> WordPress Beat Joomla" on Weblog Tools Collection, a website devoted to
> WordPress. The author, an Australian website designer, doesn't trash Joomla,
> but he mentions how WordPress was able to make quick changes that helped
> boost its popularity.?
> >>
> >>
> >>I don't completely agree with him, especially the part where bases CMS
> popularity on Google searches, but he brings up some interesting points.?
> >>?
> http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2011/08/05/how-wordpress-beat-joomla/
> ??
> >>
> >>
> >>Hope to see everyone on Thursday.
> >>
> >>
> >>All best,
> >>
> >>
> >>Steve
> >>
> >>--
> >>Stephen Britton
> >>Technology Consultant
> >>sbritton at gmail.com
> >>ph: 914-661-0040
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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