[nycphp-talk] bsd apache php mysql help
Chalu Kim
chalu at egenius.com
Mon Dec 30 17:15:23 EST 2002
Yes, on Linux is easier, getting things compiled or getting RPM or DEB (the
scale of compilers).
My only complaint is that there are lots of packages I need to maintain.
Just because of some OpenSSL vulnerability on Linux, there have been several
occasions to do quick upgrades which can take much time.
At times, I get the feeling Linux is less secure. This is way I track
Openwall if you are not familiar with it. Check it out.
BSD gives much higher stability and your programming investment will last
longer. If I were you, give BSD a good try. Once you set, you will be
cruising. You can use this board to have others help you debug...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Lam" <chun_lam at hotmail.com>
To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at nyphp.org>
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] bsd apache php mysql help
> I suggest using Redhat Linux. That way we both have a frame to work with.
> Linux is good for a reason that alot of people who uses php know at least
a
> little bit. This way I can walk you thru some basic stuff and you can
> figure out the more advance stuff at your own time. This will at least
get
> some stuff up an running quick while give you some time to learn... What
do
> you think?
>
> Matthew
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shawn Lawyer" <shawn at shawnlawyer.com>
> To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at nyphp.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 3:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] bsd apache php mysql help
>
>
> > my whole objective with my server was to not only have a for/non profit
> > developement enviroment but also to gain the experience needed to
> facilitate
> > my/others needs. what do you mean nyphp could provide space? i wouldn' t
> > mind also providing space for this group, since i do plan, when i have
> more
> > time, to become deeply involved in this local community. does nyphp.org
> site
> > need a mirror? oh and also i haven't been able to get on dal.net today
> does
> > any one know why and is there a dal.net server provided through anyone
in
> > this group. i used to spend a great deal of time in #php under the nick
> > natural178.
> >
> > thanks
> > shawn
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Daniel Kushner" <nyphp at websapp.com>
> > To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at nyphp.org>
> > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 3:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: [nycphp-talk] bsd apache php mysql help
> >
> >
> > > Shawn,
> > >
> > > I am sure that nyphp.org can supply you with a virtual server if you
> need
> > it
> > > for PHP development and non-profit use. Drop Hans (hans at nyphp.org) an
> > email
> > > for more info.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Daniel Kushner
> > > _________________________________________
> > > Need hosting? http://thehostingcompany.us
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Oktay Altunergil [mailto:nyphp at altunergil.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 2:36 PM
> > > To: NYPHP Talk
> > > Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] bsd apache php mysql help
> > >
> > >
> > > The company I work for takes care of such requests (except for
creating
> > > virtual hosts and adding users etc, which are day to day
administration
> > > tasks). We will install php and apache the way you want it to be
> installed
> > > if you let us know up front. We also provide managed services where
you
> > pay
> > > us an additional fee and never have to touch your box. We will do
> > absolutely
> > > anything you need.
> > >
> > > I'm sure there are other companies like this out there and being the
> > > *cheapest* is not our *thing*. If you're interested, please contact me
> for
> > > more info.
> > >
> > > oktay
> > >
> > > On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 10:10:07 -0500
> > > Shawn Lawyer <shawn at shawnlawyer.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > i've been a php developer for years and at several points i've had
> > access
> > > to dedicated servers with sys admins that were friends of mine, now
> that's
> > > not the case since i just moved to the new york area. okay here it
goes.
> i
> > > got tired of having to build scripts to perform tasks on site that
could
> > be
> > > handled much much better if my hosting co. would just would just make
a
> > few
> > > minor changes to php.ini. example sessions in a database and not a
file
> in
> > > the tmp dir . to work around this i had to spend hours creating a
> session
> > > script myself not even touching php sessions. so finally i broke down
> and
> > > got a dedicated server. now i just realized why i left this up to
people
> > > basck home. please help. i have no idea where to begin. i need to add
> > users,
> > > create virtual hot accounts, install ming and other php extensions,
> > install
> > > mysql, config ftp, etc...
> > > > i'm freaking out here, cause i'm trying to follow a book i got, but
it
> > > jumps around to much to be clear. oh, php, apache, ftp, sendmail, it's
> all
> > > there and installed on freebsed 4.7
> > > > thank you,
> > > > shawn lawyer
> > > >
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> > > >
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>
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Yes, on Linux is easier, getting things compiled or getting RPM or DEB (the
scale of compilers).
My only complaint is that there are lots of packages I need to maintain.
Just because of some OpenSSL vulnerability on Linux, there have been several
occasions to do quick upgrades which can take much time.
At times, I get the feeling Linux is less secure. This is way I track
Openwall if you are not familiar with it. Check it out.
BSD gives much higher stability and your programming investment will last
longer. If I were you, give BSD a good try. Once you set, you will be
cruising. You can use this board to have others help you debug...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Lam" <chun_lam at hotmail.com>
To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at nyphp.org>
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] bsd apache php mysql help
> I suggest using Redhat Linux. That way we both have a frame to work with.
> Linux is good for a reason that alot of people who uses php know at least
a
> little bit. This way I can walk you thru some basic stuff and you can
> figure out the more advance stuff at your own time. This will at least
get
> some stuff up an running quick while give you some time to learn... What
do
> you think?
>
> Matthew
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shawn Lawyer" <shawn at shawnlawyer.com>
> To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at nyphp.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 3:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] bsd apache php mysql help
>
>
> > my whole objective with my server was to not only have a for/non profit
> > developement enviroment but also to gain the experience needed to
> facilitate
> > my/others needs. what do you mean nyphp could provide space? i wouldn' t
> > mind also providing space for this group, since i do plan, when i have
> more
> > time, to become deeply involved in this local community. does nyphp.org
> site
> > need a mirror? oh and also i haven't been able to get on dal.net today
> does
> > any one know why and is there a dal.net server provided through anyone
in
> > this group. i used to spend a great deal of time in #php under the nick
> > natural178.
> >
> > thanks
> > shawn
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Daniel Kushner" <nyphp at websapp.com>
> > To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at nyphp.org>
> > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 3:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: [nycphp-talk] bsd apache php mysql help
> >
> >
> > > Shawn,
> > >
> > > I am sure that nyphp.org can supply you with a virtual server if you
> need
> > it
> > > for PHP development and non-profit use. Drop Hans (hans at nyphp.org) an
> > email
> > > for more info.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Daniel Kushner
> > > _________________________________________
> > > Need hosting? http://thehostingcompany.us
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Oktay Altunergil [mailto:nyphp at altunergil.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 2:36 PM
> > > To: NYPHP Talk
> > > Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] bsd apache php mysql help
> > >
> > >
> > > The company I work for takes care of such requests (except for
creating
> > > virtual hosts and adding users etc, which are day to day
administration
> > > tasks). We will install php and apache the way you want it to be
> installed
> > > if you let us know up front. We also provide managed services where
you
> > pay
> > > us an additional fee and never have to touch your box. We will do
> > absolutely
> > > anything you need.
> > >
> > > I'm sure there are other companies like this out there and being the
> > > *cheapest* is not our *thing*. If you're interested, please contact me
> for
> > > more info.
> > >
> > > oktay
> > >
> > > On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 10:10:07 -0500
> > > Shawn Lawyer <shawn at shawnlawyer.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > i've been a php developer for years and at several points i've had
> > access
> > > to dedicated servers with sys admins that were friends of mine, now
> that's
> > > not the case since i just moved to the new york area. okay here it
goes.
> i
> > > got tired of having to build scripts to perform tasks on site that
could
> > be
> > > handled much much better if my hosting co. would just would just make
a
> > few
> > > minor changes to php.ini. example sessions in a database and not a
file
> in
> > > the tmp dir . to work around this i had to spend hours creating a
> session
> > > script myself not even touching php sessions. so finally i broke down
> and
> > > got a dedicated server. now i just realized why i left this up to
people
> > > basck home. please help. i have no idea where to begin. i need to add
> > users,
> > > create virtual hot accounts, install ming and other php extensions,
> > install
> > > mysql, config ftp, etc...
> > > > i'm freaking out here, cause i'm trying to follow a book i got, but
it
> > > jumps around to much to be clear. oh, php, apache, ftp, sendmail, it's
> all
> > > there and installed on freebsed 4.7
> > > > thank you,
> > > > shawn lawyer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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