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[Matthew Terenzio]

On Aug 12, 2004, at 7:41 PM, Josh McCormack wrote:

> Be very, very careful when you encounter small business owners who  
> don't really understand what's involved in programming.
>  If there's any way in the world you can do it, charge by the hour.  
> They will call you about everything, expect everything to be done  
> fast, change their mind constantly, and think they're doing you a big  
> favor.
Funny, this sounds like my corporate job. : )


>
> If they think your quote was way out of bounds this might be a sign to  
> move on. Delivering pizzas or making coffee at Starbucks could end up  
> being more profitable and less ulcer inducing in the end.
>
> Josh
>
>
> Brian Kaney wrote:
>
>> It is really hard to tell without reading a specification or  
>> proposal. There is quite a range out there from a $1k to $100k-plus.   
>> Consider if
>> you need to hire a designer that could cost upward of $5k.  How much
>> back-end integration and automation is required for instance,  
>> etc...but
>> this brings up a topic we deal with every day.
>> One thing that drives me crazy about some small/mid business owners is
>> their cost expectation.  A SMB owner can purchase an entire
>> office-productivity suite for less than $500.  An accounting system  
>> for
>> $300.  So when they need integrated and custom work, it is a pretty  
>> big
>> leap for them to drop multi-$k for a project.  It really comes down  
>> to setting expectations as early as possible (so
>> you don't waste hours researching and deploying).  In the initial
>> meeting with the client, I've found just asking for their budget is  
>> very
>> useful.
>> - Brian
>> On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 10:34, Joseph Crawford Jr. wrote:
>>> Guys i have put in a quote for a site similar to
>>> http://www.novica.com/
>>> and the person said the quote was way too much, my quote was $25,000
>>> for the entire site to be done that is tax free for them, meaning i  
>>> am
>>> paying my own taxes.  Thier site included a ton of statistic features
>>> and quickbooks report integration etc...
>>> Do you guys think i quoted high or low?
>>> Joe Crawford Jr.
>>>
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