[nycphp-talk] PHP hosting and standard tool-chain for newbie?

Peter Sawczynec ps at
Thu Apr 23 16:43:53 EDT 2009

I totally agree. But I think at least with CS3 (maybe a little earlier),
Dreamweaver has become more respectful of your existing indenting and
spaces. But alas it will go and format to old world HTML indenting style
if you give it a chance. 

Warmest regards, 
Peter Sawczynec 
Technology Dir.
ps at 

-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at [mailto:talk-bounces at]
On Behalf Of Ajai Khattri
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 4:34 PM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] PHP hosting and standard tool-chain for

On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Peter Sawczynec wrote:

> But, dude, I am telling you that other than in this narrow very
> world of hard corps programmers; I have never been in an agency or
> studio or talked to another contemporary web slinger (and by a web
> slinger I mean someone who also actually uses and programs Flash,
> say) where I ever heard the word Eclipse or BBEdit or, OMG, Notepad
> mentioned as a serious tool of the trade. Not even in the most dark 
> back room data center with dust clogged cables running in and out of 
> routers and across coffee stained carpet, nope not even there.
> Dreamweaver is the de facto web design product used out there
> in the cold free world. 

I would agree, but add that that's true for web DESIGNERs. No serious
/ Ruby / Java guys use Dreamweaver for writing CODE and web apps are
than just design.

Aj. (who gets tired tidying up the crazy psycho HTML indentation 
introduced whenever a designer touches a PHP template with DW :-)

New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List

More information about the talk mailing list